Stiggy Posted 14, June 2021 Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 Hi all, I'm looking at purchasing a 2014 Clio rs 200 automatic with ~50kkms, however I believe the timing belt (and water pump) have not been changed since new. Should I still go ahead with the purchase? If so, I'm assuming that I should get these two items done right after purchasing the vehicle. Any advice on the matter is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted 14, June 2021 Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 18 minutes ago, Stiggy said: Hi all, I'm looking at purchasing a 2014 Clio rs 200 automatic with ~50kkms, however I believe the timing belt (and water pump) have not been changed since new. Should I still go ahead with the purchase? If so, I'm assuming that I should get these two items done right after purchasing the vehicle. Any advice on the matter is much appreciated. Check the handbook for the recommended change interval - I know with my 182 it is 100K kms. I would be surprised if it needed to be changed any earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckovski Posted 14, June 2021 Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 26 minutes ago, Stiggy said: Hi all, I'm looking at purchasing a 2014 Clio rs 200 automatic with ~50kkms, however I believe the timing belt (and water pump) have not been changed since new. Should I still go ahead with the purchase? If so, I'm assuming that I should get these two items done right after purchasing the vehicle. Any advice on the matter is much appreciated. It's got a timing chain, so no need. It does however have the accessory belt which usually needs to be done every 4 years or so IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiggy Posted 14, June 2021 Author Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 Thanks slick and chuck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted 14, June 2021 Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 9 minutes ago, chuckovski said: It's got a timing chain, so no need. It does however have the accessory belt which usually needs to be done every 4 years or so IIRC. Shows what I know about RS200s!!! Thanks chuckovski for putting us right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckovski Posted 14, June 2021 Report Share Posted 14, June 2021 3 hours ago, slick said: Shows what I know about RS200s!!! Thanks chuckovski for putting us right. It was I think the first departure from F4R and turbo, a shared Nissan/Renault 1.6T. Though maybe not shared, probably taken - it was in the Juke turbo first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt205 Posted 15, June 2021 Report Share Posted 15, June 2021 Oh, and it's not an Auto, only reason I point this out I'd if you drive it like an auto you will shorten the lifespan of the clutch pack significantly. Biggest No No is to creep up to traffic lights on hills like every other Muppet does when they select "D" for dream and forget they are actually doing something that requires a vague level of attention. 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiggy Posted 15, June 2021 Author Report Share Posted 15, June 2021 Sorry I'm confused - is the rs 200 not an automatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt205 Posted 16, June 2021 Report Share Posted 16, June 2021 No it's a dual clutch manual with automated clutch. So as the driver you don't actuate the clutch a computer and solenoids do. It's an important distinction, with all of these types of gearboxes, dct, edc, pdk, SMG , whatever they are called, can be operated like an automatic trans but the mechanicals are a traditional style manual box. Rather than a torque converter they use clutches. A tourque converter is designed to "slip" relying on hydraulic friction for locking the engine and transmission together. An automated manual box, like the EDC in the Renault uses clutch plates operating on mechanical friction to lock engine and gearbox, so slip is there but like a manual transmission is not designed to slip more than necessary to get the car moving and for short shift periods. Driving one of these like you would a traditional torque converter auto will shorten the life span of the clutch(es). One of the key mistakes people make is creep slowly up hill approaching traffic lights which generates slip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deet Posted 16, June 2021 Report Share Posted 16, June 2021 1 hour ago, Stiggy said: Sorry I'm confused - is the rs 200 not an automatic? Its a dual clutch gearbox. It looks like an auto but operates very differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiggy Posted 16, June 2021 Author Report Share Posted 16, June 2021 Thanks for your replies - I'm coming from a manual anyway (sold my fn2 recently) so shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris043 Posted 16, June 2021 Report Share Posted 16, June 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stiggy said: Thanks for your replies - I'm coming from a manual anyway (sold my fn2 recently) so shouldn't be a problem. As Matt205 said...do not allow it to creep slowly in traffic, especially going uphill, just stop and move and stop when you need to, ignoring the beeping from behind from an impatient so and so. 😜. Also 2 other no no's. When stopped on a hill hold the car with the brake rather than the engine and when going slow especially around a roundabout initially feather the throttle rather than accelerating hard otherwise you may momentarily lose all gears. This is not a fault, just a quirk of the DCT transmission. If you treat it like a manual car with an automatic option you will be fine. 😉. Edited 16, June 2021 by chris043 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No152 Posted 16, June 2021 Report Share Posted 16, June 2021 The other distinction is that the EDC box in the Clio is a dry clutch dual clutch transmission and these are even more susceptible to wear than their wet clutch counterparts because the clutch plates get much hotter much faster while “slipping” and the traffic crawl makes this a killer. The Meg IV RS are a wet clutch design so better (arguably) for crawling in traffic like an “auto” with a torque converter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nath81 Posted 2, May 2022 Report Share Posted 2, May 2022 Is a Clio 4 then worth the potential issues caused by Sydney's stop / start traffic conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deet Posted 2, May 2022 Report Share Posted 2, May 2022 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiggy Posted 1, December 2022 Author Report Share Posted 1, December 2022 Just an update after a year and a half - had a mechanic check out the accessory belt and he said it was fine so I never ended up changing it. For reference the car is sitting on about 50k kms now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deet Posted 1, December 2022 Report Share Posted 1, December 2022 Mine is on 135k The Juke doesnt have a specific interval for the aux belt. You replace it when it looks bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeceM Posted 2, December 2022 Report Share Posted 2, December 2022 4 hours ago, Deet said: Mine is on 135k The Juke doesnt have a specific interval for the aux belt. You replace it when it looks bad I think the Clio handbook says 60,000km. Mine hasn't been done in 100,000km and last mechanical check said it looks fine but probably get it changed in the next service or two just for peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deet Posted 2, December 2022 Report Share Posted 2, December 2022 Its not specified anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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