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  1. Prices in Brisbane are not quite as reasonable as Sydney I think but order of cost is true plus relative to a set of tyres the belt will last considerably longer than the tyres before needing replacement too... 👍
  2. Thanks Matt I stand corrected on the R Link. Agreed about the negative belt disease. If the car is a keeper, it's not a huge financial impost to change the belt which means it's good again for years to come, and they are amazing performance cars for the price. Few if any alternatives in the price range. That's what I was trying to say (apologies if it didn't come across that way). It could still be an awesome car to buy.
  3. The issue with the belts on these vehicles are two fold, and it is a risk thing: 1. It is a separate item in the service book so the car can have a great service history otherwise apart from the belt change, so it may still be a great thing to buy. 2. Preventative belt change is a risk mitigation thing. From the risk perspective, there are many stories of cars that have been operated well beyond the recommended interval for the belt replacement (both in terms of time and or kms) with no adverse impact. The risk is, however, if the belt fails, you have lunched your engine. Catastrophe. Try and avoid this one, I'd suggest. Without being overly dramatic about it, I'd use the absence of evidence of a change as a bargaining chip on price, but for peace of mind, suggest get it done quickly thereafter (if you buy the car). Just because previous owners have lived on borrowed time with the belt, do you want to try? Check the rest of the history and see if the services were done on time/distance and the record is clear aside from the belt. If so, you might have a ripper deal in a low km RB8 which is a cracker of a car. As these vehicles become lower in resale value, the desire for many owners to drop a couple of grand on new belt and ancillaries could be very low (water pump should be done at the same time) which usually also coincides with a service, often major. So it is possible for a car in the low $20ks or thereabouts to suddenly have a service bill of circa $3k and not have a single thing outwardly wrong with it, and becomes the trigger for the owner to sell. Might still be a great car, well looked after and loved, but not viable for some to drop the cash to keep it. My two bob's worth, but good luck with the search. Arguably the best spec in a Meg 3 the RB8 as it has the Xenon lights plus the Satnav, R Link 2 etc... and the leather Recaros. Nice one!!
  4. Yes it was. It was an attempt to strip out some stuff from the higher specced cars to bring a lower price point, basing it on the French Police version, which also eliminated the push button start and there was also a separate button to turn off the stop/start mechanism I believe and dial rather than climate control aircon I understand (all based on the French Police requirements, which were lower spec). In Europe they may well have had different mixes of the Cup versus Sport suspension acrtoss the models whereas in Australia we received only the Cup suspension (excepy for the French Police blue ones discussed above). For what it is worth to the OP, you definitely will want the Perfohub and LSD as it makes the Meg the special vehicle it is. As for the Trophy R, it is the special of the special, as it has the composite springs and the Ohlins suspension, as well as the Akrapovic exhaust, no sound deadening and two seats of course (which also means no rear airbags and the like reducing the overall weight). Oh and one last thing, if you are looking at a 265 or 275, there's not much between them and they all response rather nicely to a little bit of a tune... 👍
  5. I can believe this. Plus if you happen to buy a LY Meg, it’s really hard to be incognito. And of course there is no “I’m sorry officer it wasn’t me. It was one of the other 6 white/silver/grey/black Golf/Polos immediately near me” defence... 🤔
  6. That is a pretty subjective question for sure as one person’s fun could be meh to another and great roads will be fun at any speed in a great car. That said, I found the Meg to be a very fine road driving compromise with substantial urge from low to mid range giving satisfaction at both above and below legal speeds. Plus the sublime handling means twisties are great fun at all speeds (and the more wicked you take the corners, the more wickedly exciting the fun). The turbo urge is a big part and the LSD another. Great balance and huge fun even at legal speeds, but also if you nudge above that. Restraint will help you keep your points - go full stick on the track.
  7. Quick mods, capture this moment - @speedfiend41 being the voice of reason... 😱 Back to the OP. The biggest differences between the cars are age and price between a 250 and a 275 (kinda obvious, because they span the gap of selling new from pre 2012 to 2017 ishh) That said, there are compelling reasons for a pre-facelift (250 or 265). Firstly, only the pre facelift has bi-xenon lighting options in some variants - typically the higher specced ones that also have the Recaros and some other fruity bits. The lights on the facelift ones are woeful. And I mean woeful... Secondly, being a bit older, if there is a good service history, a pre facelift 265 is a remarkable value proposition, with low km examples often selling for significantly below $20k. There is a higher km example 250 AGP on the forum here for a little above $10k. BTW, the 265 is a 250 until the Sport button is pushed, removing the auto-stop function and releasing the extra ponies. Many earlier versions will already have a tune or a piggy back device, all of which add greatly to the performance and driveability of the cars, which if looked after tend to be bullet proof. So it doesn't really matter 250 or 265, as a tune cures any minor difference between them. All except a very few blue Sport versions have the Cup chassis with perfohub and LSD. You need one of the LSD versions (luckily they almost certainly will be) unless you like wrestling with your steering as a sport. For my money, I'd pick an 8:08 pre fasce lift as a first choice (these have all the fruit except reversing camera) but include the bi-xenons, RS monitor, full leather Recaros and are a limited run of 100 Australia only vehicles that were made in pearl white or Liquid Yellow. Look awesome in each, but especially LY, which is pretty much the hero colour for the Meg 3. The 250 is not available in LY, but a canary yellow flat colour which, if you had bought just before LY came out, you would probably have already shot yourself by now, so maybe available in deceased estates...? Second choice would be an AGP, which had similar fruit to the 8:08 but was based on the 250 (I think). Also limited to 100 examples, and was available in black or white IIRC. Not sure if they were available in other colours. Third choice would be an RB8, which was the last of the line of the 265s and had ALL the fruit - leather Recaros, full RS Link 2 with reverse camera and RS Monitor, and come only in a really dark blue (virtually black if not in sunlight), but a well- kept example of this is a stunning car if you love washing cars. When clean, they look amazing!! Price no option, then go for a 275 Cup Premium. You will not get decent headlights (ever - in the facelift) and you will need to search aftermarket for bulbs if you prefer your lighting not provided by candles, but you will get potentially warranty remaining (many had 5 years), low km (depending on how often driven but generally lower cos newer), and they are remarkable value for a near new performance vehicle. Go for a Premium (they ALL have Cup suspension), which also has the panoramic (fixed) glass roof, as many hire companies ran the standard Cup models, and you maybe don't want an ex hire car as your pride and joy. Maybe you do, but I wouldn't. Oh and all the higher spec Megs have 19 inch rims. Some folks complain about ride harshness compared with the 18s on most lower specced ones. I never found this an issue, and loved the "connected to the tarmac" feeling you get from the 19s and the Meg steering. Oh, and good rubber is a must. Michelin PS4S highly recommended, but so are lots of others at better price points. Don't get Chinese crap brands, though, and you will be rewarded with an amazing handling car. I hope that helps, but any Meg is a wicked piece of road going yeehah, and you are almost certain to donate some points and funds to the State coffers in one. Don't say you weren't warned!! Failing that, you could follow the various voices of reason, and get a Clio 3 (197 or 200 as suggested by others) which is like a Meg, but at a much lower speed (in most instances). Sorry Clio fans, but having had both, that was my take on it. Having the Meg first spoiled my Clio experience. Oh and you sit on a Clio compared to zipping a Meg up around you. Depends what you like there... To the OP, I hope that helps, and if you get a chance to drive a Meg, take it through some of your favourite twisty roads, don't back off, pick a line, hang on and smile... They are remarkable things to drive. Good luck with your search. Oh and if I have offended anyone (or maybe everyone...) here, tongue was intended to be in cheek, but with some serious points for the young lad to consider with his Meg purchase.
  8. No152

    Unlikely Choice?

    Hey @RedFrog welcome to the forum, congrats on the new Rat Shit and a great intro post. You will definitely fit in around here. Like some others here, i managed to bypass the RWD Alfa thing - partly because they seemed to rust away faster than I could save up for them, and partly because watching mates with them suffer financial and emotional pain I thought better them than me... I recently bought a 147 for my daughter to learn on and so she can say for ever more her first car was an Alfa. Cruel, I know... I loved the rationale upon which the Meg arrived, so enjoy. I look forward to more posts from you! 👍
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    New to forum

    I can vouch for this... 😳
  10. No152

    clio rs200 sport mk4

    Yep, the RS18 is what he would have meant. The RS16 was the teaser Unicorn, Clio with the f4RT running gear... Magically appeared for a little while and then we were told we couldn't have one... To the OP, if the intended use is a daily driver with occasional track days, the Clio IV is a great compromise. Some on here have modded them significantly and reports are good as to handling all that.
  11. What are you saying? It's straight out of the Naughty But Nice catalogue... 😝 Agreed the car looks to be well cared for. The 200 with the Recaros (listed as a 197) could be hard to go past as well. a lot of value in that spec.
  12. Apologies to the OP I accidentally posted in the other similar thread to this one.
  13. Compared to the little robotic Luigi changing gears in the Selespeed in the Alfa, the EDC will feel like a Ferrari in the gear changing department... 👍🤣
  14. Like others have said, they are a well-sorted and feature-packed small car that has few peers in the price point they can be had for. And they are almost without doubt the best looking small car in the hot hatch fleet. At the age you are looking, there are two variants and two trim levels. Variants are the Sport and Cup, distinguished by the Cup's black wheels and red brakes where the Sport has silver for both of these. Cup suspension is a little lower and firmer than Sport and it has 18 inch wheels instead of the 17's. Trim level are the base model and the Trophy (which later became the Cup Premium). This version has the leather seats with seat warmers, climate control and a better R Link system in the infotainment plus a number of minor other changes. The Cup Trophy is the pick (in my view) and is a terrific place to sit and has all the sportiness that you will need in a small family-friendly hatch. You will not pay much more for the full-fruit version, so go for that. Liquid Yellow is the hero colour and is amazing in the shape of these great little cars. Achilles heel in them are the EDC which can have transmission ECU issues, so check it isn't doing anything that seems odd when you drive, and especially has no shuddering or warning lights on the dash appearing anywhere. Make sure the battery is in good condition because the EDC controllers are electrically operated and a failing battery can make it seem like EDC issues, and if there is a gearbox issue, it cannot be diagnosed properly without a very good condition battery. The other issue, which is a much lesser problem, is the turbo inlet pipe which is a strange two-piece design that fails without warning when it goes. Nothing catastrophic, but you will be limping along with no power when it happens back to your dealer where the replacement part is circa $700 to fix. Aftermarket options exist, but doesn't help you much if the car is undriveable until you source a new one. Overall, they are a very fun and economical car toy drive and have an exhaust growl that is up there with the best out of the box. I'm not sure what Trophy 220's are going for, but one of them is a notch up again, with little improvements everywhere in the drivetrain (more punch, quicker gear changes and slightly more sporty suspension again), and more is always more, right? Enjoy shopping, welcome to the forum, and we look forward to seeing you posting about your new ride soon!
  15. Best of the Mk 4 Clios in the best paint colour ever! Enjoy... 😁
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