griffyn Posted 16, July 2013 Report Share Posted 16, July 2013 I would like to start a conversation here about what we think is OK to share, to copy and to link to. We're already discussing this behind the scenes, but there's no point us imposing some arbitrary limit on what's alright. There are a couple of easy points: Full articles from paid media Full articles from free media Photos from media Community sourced guides and content Renault manuals and how-to instructions What's our feeling on copying and re-hosting any or all of the above? What is acceptable? I have lots of thoughts about it, but we need some feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 16, July 2013 Report Share Posted 16, July 2013 Yes - free media - past copies of paid media (ie not available for purchase anymore) - photos from media, source acknowledged where possible & not to be passed off as one's own photos No - current copies of paid media (magazines, apps etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemz Posted 16, July 2013 Report Share Posted 16, July 2013 I'm with Alex - especially about acknowledging media sources (with a link or otherwise). Community sourced guides are OK, as long as the author's details are included and a proviso about using the guide at your risk. Renault manuals are where it gets interesting because they are extremely useful but also a clear breach of copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wade Posted 16, July 2013 Report Share Posted 16, July 2013 I think that Walkie has it nailed from an ethical POV. Anything that is currently being sold is out of bounds and acknowledge sources .... However 'out of print' sharing may have legal copywrite issues.... Not sure in the rules here. I think that the current data and IP laws were never created with the new digital world in mind. Society has not yet adjusted to the fact that the internet makes it almost impossible to control information. Most businesses are still using bus models based upon the old world where controlling info was the way to make $$. Still the law is currently the law. It would interesting to understand the liability of OZRS as a group and us as individual members. If laws are breached is the person who posted it responsible or the forum for hosting it..... Likewise, can OZRS as a group be held accountable and what form would that take ?? Rob do you know anything about this area of law ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domlebo70 Posted 16, July 2013 Report Share Posted 16, July 2013 I think that anything which would measurably disadvantage a party financially, is out of bounds. I.e. if it's something they are making money from (a current issue of a magazine) then it shouldn't be allowed. A year old article is no longer generating revenue for that party, so I feel it's alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiandmtb Posted 17, July 2013 Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 Magazine back issue availability should mean publishing old content is also off-limits: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20227 ... ssues.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozz Posted 17, July 2013 Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 I don't think that providing links to other's content would be a problem (or googles would be in a bit of strife!) but blatant scanning/copying & re-posting would (if appropriate acknowledgement isn't made). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 17, July 2013 Author Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 Thanks so far folks, a far healthier discussion than I was expecting has already started to congeal. I think that links are OK, but have an issue with content that's not directly ours being presented as if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 17, July 2013 Author Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 Magazine back issue availability should mean publishing old content is also off-limits: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/20227 ... ssues.html I agree. Good content is worth money, and I'm happy to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wade Posted 17, July 2013 Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 Thanks so far folks, a far healthier discussion than I was expecting has already started to congeal. I think that links are OK, but have an issue with content that's not directly ours being presented as if it was. Agreed, but the issue then becomes appropriate recognition of ownership. I assume this becomes the responsibility of the poster..... If it isn't there what will the admins do .... Delete the post ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozz Posted 17, July 2013 Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 Thanks so far folks, a far healthier discussion than I was expecting has already started to congeal. I think that links are OK, but have an issue with content that's not directly ours being presented as if it was. Agreed, but the issue then becomes appropriate recognition of ownership. I assume this becomes the responsibility of the poster..... If it isn't there what will the admins do .... Delete the post ? If this was a business intranet (like the one where I work) we'd hide the post and request the author to include an ack, and delete if no follow up in a certain time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob 240 Posted 17, July 2013 Report Share Posted 17, July 2013 wade its not in my area but i agree with walkie i dont think we should put up copies of current magazine articles - they need to sell them to stay in biz . for mine , older ones are ok as no ones likely to buy old articles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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