RS 250 and redline regret

[Blake7373]

Folks, Seeking reassurance, can someone please tell me that it's OK to hit the redline occasionally and that hearing the odd short redline beep is not frying the engine of my beautiful muse and causing lasting damage?

[Tommo]

As long as the oil temp is up, it's doing no damage at all. These cars are designed for the high RPM fun, and hitting the red-line is just part of the fun of an RS.

[LigerZero]

more frequent driving in your car and you'll get use to engine nose and rev range so you don't redline. It wont hurt so lon as you don't continually try to ride your revs on redline to hard, you know its time to shift gear once the horrendous shift light beep comes on anyway.

[Apex]

Set gear change chime to avoid it. Its not going to do any damage but it does little for performance.

[Opposite_Lock]

Can you turn the beep off?

 

 

- Sam

[LigerZero]

Apparently not... unless somebody in the tech side can tell us otherwise. The Gear shift beep is less annoying than the embarassing air horn.

[walkie86]

Girls go wild when they hear limiter.

 

Or maybe that's just buddy's F1 car?

[Dave200]

Go for it, these engine were built to be driven hard

[buddy]

Ridiculous!

 

Why are people even posting in this thread.

 

Limiter is mad, girls love it, your car loves it.

 

Get with the program.

[rob 240]

 

^ what buddy said

[domlebo70]

My car is redline at least once a journey (or close to). Just make sure your fluids are up to temp.

[Dave200]

Ridiculous!

 

Why are people even posting in this thread.

 

Limiter is mad, girls love it, your car loves it.

 

Get with the program.

 

LOL never gets boring. Are you coming to the dyno day? Lots of rev limiter bashing

[rado]

Dont think either of our clios go bellow 6k when i drive em.. They love it!

 

 

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[chiapoco]

Apparently not... unless somebody in the tech side can tell us otherwise. The Gear shift beep is less annoying than the embarassing air horn.

 

I didn't know what the horn sounded like till a few days after I drove it out of the dealership, had to pull over to have a laugh at it

[rob 240]

how can you drive flat out without banging the limiter ?

[portal]

someone needs to drink a glass of concrete to harden up!

[Apex]

OT but how good does Megane with an big exhaust sound when it hits the cold limiter?? Mine \ blows flames and sounds like a WRC car!!

 

I live life in the limiter, its not a way of driving its a lifestyle.

[snaponrs250]

BLAKE7373

 

Somone needs to take your car off you!!!

[Pommie]

Nothing wrong with it... That is what the rev limiter is there for so you don't damage your engine.

 

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[Adrian-Bstar]

There is some Gold in this thread!

[steel2heal]

The rev limitier threshold changes depending on the temperatutre of your engine / oil. If you get in and give it to the engine cold (not recommended) the limiter will apparently beep and cut revs about 1500 revs lower than when the engine is warm. I noticed it to a degree one day when I thought my engine had warmed up enough on a very cold day. I accelerated hard in 2nd only to find it limited any further acceleration beyond 5,000 revs! I thought something was wrong so I let it warm up a few more kilometers and tried again. This time the rev limiter went off at 6,000 revs. I brought it up with a mate of mine who's a bit of a car tragic. He said that there sould be an engine management system in the car's electronics that would hopefully make it "idiot-proof" (his words - not mine) to cause excessive damage due to excessive revs when cold. I don't know if anyone else has noticed the same thing?

[acrRS250]

Its like air con - why would Renault put it there if you weren't meant to use it???

[Exar Kun]

The rev limitier threshold changes depending on the temperatutre of your engine / oil. If you get in and give it to the engine cold (not recommended) the limiter will apparently beep and cut revs about 1500 revs lower than when the engine is warm. I noticed it to a degree one day when I thought my engine had warmed up enough on a very cold day. I accelerated hard in 2nd only to find it limited any further acceleration beyond 5,000 revs! I thought something was wrong so I let it warm up a few more kilometers and tried again. This time the rev limiter went off at 6,000 revs. I brought it up with a mate of mine who's a bit of a car tragic. He said that there sould be an engine management system in the car's electronics that would hopefully make it "idiot-proof" (his words - not mine) to cause excessive damage due to excessive revs when cold. I don't know if anyone else has noticed the same thing?

 

BMW M cars have a variable redline on the tacho. You see the redline change as the car wams up. Right up until you get to unleash 8000rpm of NA goodness (well, until the E90 series anyway)

[DanielG]

Clio has the same thing, except I think it's a 6250 or there abouts. It only goes off coolant temperature though in the Clio IIRC.

[Andy93]

^ pretty sure it's oil temp. I never take a car above 3500ish when the coolant temp is low. Mine had been up at operating temp for a couple of mins and I gave it a boot full in 2nd to join a freeway and limiter cut in around 6k.

[DanielG]

Clio II doesn't have an oil temp sensor.

 

Max. engine speeds for a coolant temperature

for a coolant temperature > 75°C in 1st or 2nd gear 7,200 rpm

for a coolant temperature > 75°C in 3rd, 4th or 5th speed 7,000 rpm

 

Is what the technical manuals quote

[BenG]

[Blake7373]

Thanks for the helpful advice, as someone professionally unaware of the Renault engine's endurance to sustained hard driving it's reassuring to hear that the engine is up for it, as most of us know the temptation is hard to resist. And to the couple of smarta***s, if big mouthing on Internet forums is your thing I can understand why you need a fast car.

[Tommo]

I doubt they were trying to be smarta***s. Most of us have a wacky sense of humour

[rado]

I doubt they were trying to be smarta***s. Most of us have a wacky sense of humour

+10000000

[BenG]

Ii need a fast car cause i have a tiny dick

[acrRS250]

Ii need a fast car cause i have a tiny dick

 

You too Ben? Must be why we're faithful - take what we can get!

 

P.S shame on those smarta***s. Don't worry Blake, no doubt karma will see them unintentionally hit the rev limiter causing their engines to explode

[chiapoco]

Hey blake,

 

Im new to this forum too and stil tryna get used to peoples humour. Dont let it get ya!

 

People around here are knowledgeable as and you can learn alot just by sifting through old threads

[snaponrs250]

Just abit of fun BLAKE i was like you at first when i joined the forum and took offence to it but really it means nothing

 

Enjoy the 250 and rev the guts out of it

[RaindancerAU]

There are some long running in-jokes that might seem like abrasive commentary, but it's not really that at all. I've been hanging out here for 3 months and there are still quite a few things I don't quite get, but I can recognise most of them now.

 

Regarding the toughness of the engine. I did a 750km drive of Bells' Line of Road, Mt Panorama, Peel Road, Bylong Valley Way and Putty Road as a finale, all in the one day. Sport mode was on and I was repeatedly up at redline in 2nd and 3rd gear through the twisty stuff, even got 4th close to redline a couple of times (on "private" road sections of course ) and the 250 only seemed to get better with this kind of attitude

 

Considering how hard the older 225s and R26s around here get pushed and the fact they're still going strong is testament to how strong the F4R series engines are. I'd expect the newer F4R in the 250 is just as strong, if not stronger (evidence points to stronger). Give her heaps! Just a little common sense before she warms up (it's not just the engine that needs to get to temperature, the entire driveline needs warming up and if possible, warming down - this applies to all cars) and make sure you don't grab 2nd on a downshift instead of 4th, or 1st instead of 3rd that rarely ends well.

 

If your 250 is fairly new (and most are), the engine may still be loosening up. I definitely felt it in the first 5000kms and there probably is room for it to keep changing character up to around 20k kms. Mine definitely felt like it became more willing to rev smoothly (and quickly!) as the kms piled on. I'll be hitting 10k kms soon.