182 Puncture scenario

[dars]

Hi all.

This is my first post and I would love some info on an issue that concerns me regarding 182 clios.

I have purchased a great low km 05 Clio Sport, and am very impressed with the car in general. The thing that I dislike most about this car is the lack of a spare wheel/ jack/ wheel brace, replaced by two aerosol canisters.

I would like to know if anyone has had a puncture in a 182, and whether the aerosol cans were effective in inflating the tyre and making the car drivable back home. Also, how do they work when there isn't a jack to lift the weight off the damaged tyre, or a compressor? Also, given the cost of a replacement Michelin, is it possible to then have the tyre cleaned out, patched, and put back into use?

Any advice on this issue is much appreciated,

cheers.

[smr248]

Welcome to the forum. Tell us a bit about your car, etc.

 

Can't give advice on the tyre aerosol, but I was under the impression that 182s still have a jack/wheelbrace/small toolkit. My 182 certainly has one, sits upright in the boot between the rear hatch opening and wheelarch on the driver's side. Held in place by a velcro-ended tiedown (thru the boot side lining in this area).

 

Possibly find something about the 182 no spare problem in the Clio II technical section.

[dars]

Thanks smr248. That's interesting, I'm pretty sure there is no jack/wheelbrace/toolkit in my car, unless it is underneath a compartment and out of site. I have the aerosols and cargo net in the boot, held in place by the velcro tiedown you mentioned.

My 182 is not the Cup, just Sport and all original with about 35000 ks and metallic blue paint.

Hmm, now I'm wanting to know whether these cars do come with a jack ect. I bought mine from a Subaru country dealer, who had very little knowledge of the car. It was traded in for a Subie...

[walkie86]

Welcome Dars!

 

The 182 has a jack and brace in the back right-hand corner in a leather satchel, velcro strapped upright (as Steve said) to the side of the boot.

 

If the issue is a big concern, I would just hunt down a spare wheel and make do with less boot space

[ClioF1]

If the issue is a big concern, I would just hunt down a spare wheel and make do with less boot space

 

Walkie is a genius, look here dars

 

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17259&start=25

 

Welcome

[dars]

Thanks for your advice guys.

The first thing I'll do is phone the dealer to see whether they still have the pouch with the jack/tools, though I doubt it. I may have to buy this; are there any members that work for the Renault dealerships in Victoria who can help? Also, what's the deal when buying from interstate with payment/delivery ect.

I'm interested to know if anyone has had a puncture in a 182, and how successful they were in getting the car mobile again using the standard puncture repair kit.

[Fort]

Couple of years ago I had a puncture with nail in tyre dead flat. I used the definitely supplied jack and one canister which got me mobile and down to the local Bob Jane who put a plug in the hole and i had no further problem with that tyre. I must admit I was dubious but it worked although anything more than a nail would be more of an issue.

[griffyn]

I've had three tyre problems.

 

None required the goo.

 

One was a compression fracture, two others were punctures.

 

The Exaltos were stiff enough to drive very sedately to the nearest tyre place and were repaired without problem.

[BG 172]

I have a 172, and when I first purchased it the rear tire had a slow leak. I only knew this because the previous owner told me, so I kept an eye on it. Have michelin pilot preceda's which are stiff tyres. One day I was surprised to find it only had 10 psi in it, as I didn't notice a change in the way it drove and the tire looked fully inflated! I eventually got it repaired / plugged. If you had a flat front tyre you may even be able to swap it to the rear and drive back like that?!

[SamR]

I haven't used the goo as yet. I've had 2 punctures, one in each rear tyre, on separate occasions. I discovered both of them when the car was at home, but they were both slow leaks due to nails (lousy no good people leaving nails on the road! ).

Both times I removed the offending wheel and drove down to the local servo to get them repaired in my 205 as I still had it when I got the punctures.

[smr248]

Thanks smr248. That's interesting, I'm pretty sure there is no jack/wheelbrace/toolkit in my car, unless it is underneath a compartment and out of site. I have the aerosols and cargo net in the boot, held in place by the velcro tiedown you mentioned.

My 182 is not the Cup, just Sport and all original with about 35000 ks and metallic blue paint.

Hmm, now I'm wanting to know whether these cars do come with a jack ect. I bought mine from a Subaru country dealer, who had very little knowledge of the car. It was traded in for a Subie...

 

Hi Dars,

 

There's no real hiding spots in the boot of a 182, lift up the bootfloor carpet and all you get it the painted (of sorts in body colour) boot floor. Because of the twin mufflers sitting under it there is no spare wheel well. The 172 RS Clios & other 5 door hatch Clios have a wheel well, but not the 182. About the only place the jack/toolkit could be hiding is under the front seats or the glovebox. Maybe the first owner still has it sitting in their garage or the dealers detailer put it somewhere safe (wouldn't surprise me). Either way there should still be slots in the liner where the tiedown strap goes through.

 

If you decide to go with a spare and hence compromise your boot space please make sure you secure it. Last thing you want is all that weight coming at you in an emergency.

 

Is your Artic Blue example the one that was for sale in Warnambool, Vic last year?

[dars]

Yes Steve, that's my car.

I've contacted the dealer which originally delivered the car from new, as I also want to know the security code for the radio.

They told me the car did not come with a jack and toolkit, so I now have conflicting information!

As for the security code, they would not give me it over the phone. They said I can go into any Renault dealer in Melbourne and get it for a fee of $10.

[Jeffie]

LOL @ $10 charge for the stereo code! Keep calling dealers until you find a nice one thatll give it to you. I ended up calling Perth cos it was after midday saturday here and he was nice enough to help me out!

[griffyn]

Yes Steve, that's my car.

I've contacted the dealer which originally delivered the car from new, as I also want to know the security code for the radio.

They told me the car did not come with a jack and toolkit, so I now have conflicting information!

As for the security code, they would not give me it over the phone. They said I can go into any Renault dealer in Melbourne and get it for a fee of $10.

 

Load of rubbish. Every 182 I've seen had a toolkit, and a friendly dealer will provide the radio code for nix. They may want you to prove ownership though (register with Renault Oz first )

[Moosey]

You generally need to front up to a dealership to get a radio code as they need proof of ID/ownership. Wouldn't want someone calling up and being given the code for your nicked radio/car.

[Wolf]

Looked into this right now.

172 - came with a full jack kit...$302 retail

182 - came with the 2 cans.

Can only assume the leather satchel was an accessory at the time.

WOLF

[toshin]

I have the leather satchel with jack etc. but only one can!

 

edit: mine is an '04 182.

[smr248]

Yes Steve, that's my car.

I've contacted the dealer which originally delivered the car from new, as I also want to know the security code for the radio.

They told me the car did not come with a jack and toolkit, so I now have conflicting information!

As for the security code, they would not give me it over the phone. They said I can go into any Renault dealer in Melbourne and get it for a fee of $10.

 

Hi Dars,

 

How's that for a guess on your car. Hope you're enjoying it.

 

Maybe the conflicting information relates back to when the car was delivered, potentially early 182's (Sept/Oct 04 was the first of them) were supplied to the owner with no spare & no jack/toolkit and just the aerosols. Maybe too many people complained and later examples got the jack & toolkit. Or maybe you had to ask for said item. Who knows, I saw Wolf's message but it appears by comments on here that there is indeed "the haves and the have nots" when it comes to 182s.

 

As you're already aware my car has the jack & toolkit and is an Dec 05 compliance, but didn't find an owner until Sept 06. So that could be why.

[dars]

Wow Steve, you're right again!

I checked the contract papers and found that my car got compliance on 10/04. I presume that you are only speculating about early 182s not having the toolkit, or do you know this as fact?

Anyway, I am waiting for a return phone call from the Warnambool dealer re the jack/toolkit, so I will let you know of the outcome.

So the jack-kit from the 172 can be bought from a dealer, and is compatible with my 182, Wolf?

Thanks again for your help guys...

[Wolf]

You can purchase it from a dealer

or through myself locally or via myself and the UK.

Compatible?... prob not as it's the yellow cased kit (172 owners will know this) that actually sits inside the spare wheel. So no spare wheel, don't know where you could place it. Meet up with any 172 owner, have a look and play, and see what you think before buying the kit.

My supplier said a couple of aerosol cans, so he could have been speaking liberally, not literally.

Either way, we used a VIN and no joy.

Would anyone with a leather satchel mind posting a pic or 2 up on this thread or mine. Would help with the hunt.

Cheers,

WOLF

[murcod]

172 and 182 jacks are different, but the 172 jack might work OK. The difference is in the top part of the jack where it supports the sill.

[nisch]

I've had a puncture once, but I always carry a spare wheel with me in the boot. I have a space saver from a normal Clio but it doesn't fit...

 

As with other members, I was under the impression that all 182's came with the little jack kit in the boot (also includes the tow hook). I carry an extra wheel brace too because the supplied one is useless for tight wheel nuts.

 

Radio code should be free. I had to call the dealer that did a warranty replacement on my radio because the code from Renault Oz didn't work (code was for the original radio, not the replacement).

[smr248]

Wow Steve, you're right again!

I checked the contract papers and found that my car got compliance on 10/04. I presume that you are only speculating about early 182s not having the toolkit, or do you know this as fact?

Anyway, I am waiting for a return phone call from the Warnambool dealer re the jack/toolkit, so I will let you know of the outcome.

So the jack-kit from the 172 can be bought from a dealer, and is compatible with my 182, Wolf?

Thanks again for your help guys...

 

Hi Dars,

 

It was speculation only. But given the car trade make decisions that then get howled down by the punters, to then have a change of heart, it's still a possiblity.

 

If you have no luck from Warnambool, perhaps try a 'wanted' ad found under the 'for sale' section on the forum. Otherwise Alpine Affaire in Ringwood or one of the other Renault specialists might have something lying around.

If you want brand new then Wolf can help, but we need to at least get a photo of the kit on here for him. Although if I dug mine out, there might be a part number on something. Being a technology dunce I can't help with a photo.

 

As already mentioned, the 172 kit isn't suitable because it sits in a plastic basket in the centre of the spare wheel on all RS Clio 172 & Clio 5 door hatches. This being what my 03 Clio Expression has.

[Wolf]

Part number 1000 times better than a photo.

Whatever you can find Steve.

Cheers,

WOLF

[dars]

Ok, here's an update.

Warnambool was no help, just reiterating that the 182 never had a jack/toolkit, and radio code not available so it's up to me to chase it up. The latter should not be a problem, I'll visit a Renault dealer (maybe Friday) and while I'm there will ask about the availability of the toolkit.

[smr248]

Part number 1000 times better than a photo.

Whatever you can find Steve.

Cheers,

WOLF

 

Hi Wolf & Dars,

 

I've dug out my jack & toolkit and the following may help (then again it may not too)

 

(removed from the pouch) The black moulded foam case that most items sit into has 'RENAULT 7700842012 / I' there are other numbers but I take the number quoted to be the part number. This item holds the jack, jack handle, 'wire' 182 alloy wheel centre cap remover, black plastic key for removing centre cap from a 15" alloy wheel & finally a black plastic hex headed item (not sure what for).

 

The jack has 3 stickers with one quoting Oxford Automotive and another states for Clio use only. What I believe the part number is 049 292/--C, then below that is (344). The (344) is also moulded into the above mentioned foam case.

 

Also in the pouch is the 2 tow hooks (2 different sizes) and a bent rod (not sure what this is for, only thing I can think is holding the bonnet higher).

 

So the whole thing is pretty compact and the pouch itself dimension-wise is approx. 280mm x 150mm x 70mm. The flap being closed by the use of velcro.

 

Hope this helps.

[rmadrid-182]

I checked the contract papers and found that my car got compliance on 10/04. I presume that you are only speculating about early 182s not having the toolkit, or do you know this as fact?

 

I have a late 04 build 182 Cup, I have the jack-toolkit set and cargo net.

[ClioF1]

The standard jack and toolkit is pretty average. My wheel brace broke and was replaced under warranty. You should get the towhook as a minimum as you can't get towed without it.

[biologist]

I bought one of the very first 182 Cups in Australia, certainly I was the first west aussie to drive away in one here. It came with the velcroed toolkit including wheel brace, towhook and jack and TWO, yes 2 cans of wheel foam AND they came in their own little vinyl (leather look) Renault satchel that was placed in the glove box along with the document satchel. Plus a few weeks later Renault sent me a real nice and real leather Renault multi CD case.

 

I suspect the appearance or not of puncture foam, numbers of cans, wether they were in a satchel or not and the tool kit depended on the dealers themselves and how they conducted their pre delivery service. Some items may not have been placed, added whatever in later cars but I can categorically say that from the very get go the 182 Cup had everything except a spare tyre and rather than depend on a can of foam I bought a spare rim and had a full size Preceda fitted within a few weeks of getting the car. It helped when I picked up a techscrew and the tyre was dead flat. Got the puncture repaired that day and all was good.

 

[smr248]

Hi Biologist,

 

Very handy info for those of us who didn't buy our RS Clio 182s brand new. Thank you for helping clear this up.

[Wolf]

Cheers to all,

Will start the hunt with that part number.

What a great site ths is... so much sharing.

WOLF

[dars]

Thanks Wolf, and good luck.

I've been to the Ringwood dealer, where they were helpful/friendly and gave me the security PIN number for radio, without charge. They looked for the 182 jack/toolkit on the data base and could only come up with the 172 tub kit, stating that the leather sachet unit is not listed (as you mentioned). Told me that it must have been put together in Australia, probably in response to the Aussie customers dissatisfaction of not having said item (an accessary, as you also mentioned). Strange that the car was delivered without a tow hook, though...

[griffyn]

Do they still have the 182 Cup wheel stuck in the corner at Ringwood?

[murcod]

Strange that the car was delivered without a tow hook, though...

 

My tow hook was stashed inside the jack tool kit when I got mine. A previous owner has probably taken the lot out at some stage and then sold the vehicle without it.

[Wolf]

Ok.

Based on the number above, it's a jack kit... $280 delivered from overseas.

Will see wha local prices can bring up (if any) and see which is best.

Cheers,

WOLF

ps: the shipping alone is over $100 due to weight.

[murcod]

Here's something every 182 owner should invest in (as a minimum) to "compensate" for no spare: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online ... 48#details

 

On special today and tomorrow. Comes with a reasonably good material carry bag and weighs around 1-2kg.

At least after using the cans of goo you can then get some pressure into the tyre.

[Wolf]

Here's something every 182 owner should invest in (as a minimum) to "compensate" for no spare: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online ... 48#details

 

On special today and tomorrow. Comes with a reasonably good material carry bag and weighs around 1-2kg.

At least after using the cans of goo you can then get some pressure into the tyre.

 

I like it. Good tip indeed.

[dars]

Didn't see the wheel griffyn, but didn't really look either. I was distracted by the brand new gunmetal 250RS Megane they had there, and the clever service manager inviting me to have a sit in. Wow, looks great inside and out!

[smr248]

Ok.

Based on the number above, it's a jack kit... $280 delivered from overseas.

Will see wha local prices can bring up (if any) and see which is best.

Cheers,

WOLF

ps: the shipping alone is over $100 due to weight.

 

Good to see the part numbers got a result for you Wolf.

[halfdave]

I just bought myself a slime and compressor kit it was around $68 from repco (i think it may have been $15 off)

 

http://www.slime.com/product/491/Safety-Spair-(%2370005).html

 

I can also be used in air only mode, big seller for me.. I'm also going to get a standard tyre repair kit that are around $15, the kind that you plug from the outside. always carried one when motor cycling. something like this http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/SCA-Tyre-Repair-Tool-Kit-36-Piece.aspx?pid=130246#details

But try and get one with a T handle as it can be tough.

[dars]

Ok guys, I am still alive even though I haven't contributed to this forum for quite some time. I have finally solved my little problem, thanks mainly from the advice I recieved here; gees this is such a great site for information!

So, to conclude, I ended up going to Alpine where they were wrecking a 172. Bought the jack kit for approx 35 bucks, let them keep the yellow storage tub. This gave me the jack, wheel-brace, hook tool for wheel cap, and the all important tow hook. Put all these into a tool sachet, which is now velcroed in the rear compartment, as you guys mentioned. I am now enjoying this great little car, with peace of mind.

Thanks again, Merry Christmas, will talk again soon.