Anything coming up for sale?

[Spoku]

Anyone got a Megane 265 Trophy+ with recaros, an 8:08 or an RB8 in Western Australia or possibly interstate (I haven't done interstate before so prepare for some shenanigans but I will do my best). Don't have all the cash at the moment but some might be thinking of selling in a few months time which would line-up with me well. DM me if you are thinking about it so I can keep tabs on them. Would prefer an RB8 but want the xenons, reverse camera and recaros (prefereably leather) so hence the 8:08 and trophy+ is still an option. 

[Phillyphil]

Don't discount a meg3 with the factory cloth or leather seats. If its the right car with low km's and service intervals/belts I would say go for it.

Buying from east can be a pain and transport from East to Perth is not cheap like it was pre-covid. I bought my Wolfsburg wagon from a VIC VW dealer and it was one of the worst buying experiences I've had.!!!

The Recaro CS seats are nice but still don't hug the best on track especially in leather. FYI they are 15kgs each with all the airbags etc. 

You can pick up AUS made & ADR complaint Velo GP90 seats with OMP sliding seat rails for approx $1k each. The Velo GP90 is 7.9kgs

Velo are much lighter, supportive and comfortable that the Recaro CS. It will be a genuine upgrade for the car you will notice on kerb weight and also not fighting G force on a spirited drive. 

My good mate has a Clio3 A&D with Velo GP90 for driver and passenger. I drove the car with the OEM leather Recaro CS then once he did the upgrade to Velo. Velo all the way IMO. 

[Spoku]

2 hours ago, Phillyphil said:

Don't discount a meg3 with the factory cloth or leather seats. If its the right car with low km's and service intervals/belts I would say go for it.

Buying from east can be a pain and transport from East to Perth is not cheap like it was pre-covid. I bought my Wolfsburg wagon from a VIC VW dealer and it was one of the worst buying experiences I've had.!!!

The Recaro CS seats are nice but still don't hug the best on track especially in leather. FYI they are 15kgs each with all the airbags etc. 

You can pick up AUS made & ADR complaint Velo GP90 seats with OMP sliding seat rails for approx $1k each. The Velo GP90 is 7.9kgs

Velo are much lighter, supportive and comfortable that the Recaro CS. It will be a genuine upgrade for the car you will notice on kerb weight and also not fighting G force on a spirited drive. 

My good mate has a Clio3 A&D with Velo GP90 for driver and passenger. I drove the car with the OEM leather Recaro CS then once he did the upgrade to Velo. Velo all the way IMO. 

Wouldn’t I need to go through engineering and pre-approval still for those to be compliant and still have insurance or does it already pass through that with flying colours. Want to keep everything above board if you know what I mean.
 

I prefer the RB8 head unit I reckon so it comes with the recaros only. 

Edited 9, August 2022 by Spoku

[jberth1]

Same choice I had to make when buying my current RS - 8:08 or RB8. The Recaros are fantastic, and the spec of either the 8:08 or RB8 was what I wanted. My 8:08 has an aftermarket, very professionally fitted, intergrated, reverse camera so the choice was a no brainer. The Bi-Xenons truly turn night into day, and the startup sequence when they self seek still makes me chuckle.

Cheers

Justin

[Skip808]

1 hour ago, jberth1 said:

and the startup sequence when they self seek still makes me chuckle.

and I thought it was only me that was a still a child lol

[Spoku]

2 hours ago, Skip808 said:

and I thought it was only me that was a still a child lol

What’s this self seek thing? Do u have a video?

[hengeli]

Your prayers answered! White Trophy + for sale in WA now!!! 20,888. Get it soon before it’s gone. 

[hengeli]

Mandurah though so if you’re in Metro Perth- make that trip!

[Spoku]

2 hours ago, hengeli said:

Your prayers answered! White Trophy + for sale in WA now!!! 20,888. Get it soon before it’s gone. 

That’s been there for 2 weeks. Still don’t quite have the cash for it. Is the RB8 tech really worth it in terms of being able to see the telemetry stuff and the nicer interface or not really and I’m just better off buying some bucket seats like the velo gP90 and saving the smidge of cash. 

[hengeli]

It’s up to you, for me without RS monitor has been fine, I personally didn’t use it that much when I had my Clio mk III, so the ball is in your court, try to make a trip a perhaps test drive it?! Look at the paint if it’s been well looked after because of the sun in WA.

[Spoku]

33 minutes ago, hengeli said:

It’s up to you, for me without RS monitor has been fine, I personally didn’t use it that much when I had my Clio mk III, so the ball is in your court, try to make a trip a perhaps test drive it?! Look at the paint if it’s been well looked after because of the sun in WA.

The sun in WA isn't actually too bad. Nothing like it was when I was living up north in Karratha. Perth and further south are pretty forgiving. Might have to see if I can make that trip soon though.

[Matt205]

Just be aware that aftermarket buckets could cause issues with rego eligibility, you will also need to program out the airbags or run resistors to avoid airbag error warnings.

Not looking to start a big discussion about roadworthy, insurance Implications etc but worth noting.

 

[Spoku]

3 minutes ago, Matt205 said:

Just be aware that aftermarket buckets could cause issues with rego eligibility, you will also need to program out the airbags or run resistors to avoid airbag error warnings.

Not looking to start a big discussion about roadworthy, insurance Implications etc but worth noting.

 

Yeah, my mate has gone and ordered some limited edition bucket seats for his car and was unaware of the whole roadworthiness and engineering process for a seat swap. He has to go and get pre-approval before fitting them otherwise his insurance will deny him if something happens. Sounds like a massive headache and kinda why I want a car with the recaros in already.

Edited 10, August 2022 by Spoku

[Matt205]

I would imagine anything that involves deleting airbags will be a hard NO in any state.

[Spoku]

1 hour ago, Matt205 said:

I would imagine anything that involves deleting airbags will be a hard NO in any state.

Yeah. Big Illegal. guess that white Megane in mandurah will probably be a pass then. I feel like you've got to get the recaros for that race factor/experience. It just makes it feel better. 

[Spoku]

1 hour ago, Matt205 said:

I would imagine anything that involves deleting airbags will be a hard NO in any state.

https://www.velo.com.au/velo-gp90-standard-seat

This is also ADR compliant so it is allowed to be used on the road and be roadworthy so how does that still fit in the legal scene? Still a no because airbag removal or is it because most aftermarket seats aren't ADR compliant.

[Caduceus]

As well as the airbag issue, on a 2 door vehicle, a fixed-back bucket seat also prevents ease of entry/egress from the back seats.  You may not ever want to carry passengers but if you block access to those seats, you will probably need it mod-plated as a two seater and all the ball ache that entails.

Edited 10, August 2022 by Caduceus

[hamstrung]

Just for a bit of balance, my Lotus has Recaros and they are bloody great, IMO. Very comfortable for long journeys, good back support, and they look good.

In terms of lateral support, they've been fine for me but I won't pretend I have ever approached the cornering limits of my car. What I will add, though, is I watched a Henry Catchpole video where he was getting advice from a professional race driver (Le Mans winner?), and one little nugget I took from that is the 'push' instead of 'pull' steering technique, which pushes your shoulders into the seat side supports. That might make the Recaros supportive enough even in track applications... but I'm sure someone else can chime in who has pushed their car much harder than I have.

[Phillyphil]

On 09/08/2022 at 2:23 PM, Spoku said:

Wouldn’t I need to go through engineering and pre-approval still for those to be compliant and still have insurance or does it already pass through that with flying colours. Want to keep everything above board if you know what I mean.
 

I prefer the RB8 head unit I reckon so it comes with the recaros only. 

So good question. The Velo GP90 is made in South Australia and ADR compliant for starters. Most other aftermarket Italian or Japanese seat brands are not so you might end up with a yellow sticker from the fuzz. Punters on buy and sell pages are wanting > than $3.5K for second hand Recaro CS in cloth or leather. IMO it makes a Velo just seem like a bargin and the best way to go. 

Just need to fit a resistor into the airbag electrics so you don't get dash warning lights. My mate with the Clio3 A&D is a auto sparkie so he DIY the upgrade. 

Do your research to triple check by all means just to be safe, 

IMO the meg3 RS250 Trophee with the Recaro seats is the best value proposition on the classified. Lowest Meg3 in purchase cost and still heaps of low KM examples around. Yes it's the PH1 so the tech is not what your after but the older Renault Sport monitor (like I had in my old Clio Gordini) is easier to use and doesn't glitch like the R-Link. 

The only difference between an RS250 & RS265 is more boost and revised intake. Bet the bum dyno can't tell the difference?  If 15 HP means that much to you just get an aftermarket intake and tune. 

[Spoku]

26 minutes ago, Phillyphil said:

So good question. The Velo GP90 is made in South Australia and ADR compliant for starters. Most other aftermarket Italian or Japanese seat brands are not so you might end up with a yellow sticker from the fuzz. Punters on buy and sell pages are wanting > than $3.5K for second hand Recaro CS in cloth or leather. IMO it makes a Velo just seem like a bargin and the best way to go. 

Just need to fit a resistor into the airbag electrics so you don't get dash warning lights. My mate with the Clio3 A&D is a auto sparkie so he DIY the upgrade. 

Do your research to triple check by all means just to be safe, 

IMO the meg3 RS250 Trophee with the Recaro seats is the best value proposition on the classified. Lowest Meg3 in purchase cost and still heaps of low KM examples around. Yes it's the PH1 so the tech is not what your after but the older Renault Sport monitor (like I had in my old Clio Gordini) is easier to use and doesn't glitch like the R-Link. 

The only difference between an RS250 & RS265 is more boost and revised intake. Bet the bum dyno can't tell the difference?  If 15 HP means that much to you just get an aftermarket intake and tune. 

I presume you are talking about the black one for $19.5k?

To alleviate some of the tech issues, would it be justifiable to redo the head unit with an aftermarket one to get apple Carplay and possibly a reverse camera or is that just too much stuffing around if you know what I mean.

Gotta say, thanks for clarifying the difference between the 250 and 265 as I didn't know the difference was a revised intake with an adjusted tune.

The RB8 with 47000kms over in NSW seems very appealing but I don't have that much by a long shot (bout 18-19k saved atm) to buy it and get it sent over and do the whole inspection and pits process. 

Edited 10, August 2022 by Spoku

[Phillyphil]

11 minutes ago, Spoku said:

I presume you are talking about the black one for $19.5k?

 

Just any RS250 around Australia in general!

Most people are fixated on power and torque figures on paper when 250PS and 360nm is more than enough through front hoops to keep us all entertained. The RS265 & RS275 are asking more money because our personal bias make us "keep up with the Joneses". 

A stock standard RS250 with good tyres and brakes will beat most things even exotic on a twisty bit of road if driven properly. 

Buy the car with the best maintenance record that's well loved don't let your decision be clouded by options & fluff. 

[havingfun]

The reverse camera is okay to have ( I now have it as I fitted the rlink from a rb8 to my car ) but the std parking front and back sensors on my rs250 work really well,, I still go by these more than using the camera

[jberth1]

I bought based on options. That's why the options exist - it's a personal choice. I found a car with Recaro's - because I wanted them. They're very comfy and fit like limpets. I wanted LY - you can't get a 250 in LY. I wanted Bi-Xenons - I drive a lot at night as I'm a shift worker so having the best lights sounded good, and I was sick of changing halogen globes. I have a stage 1 tune - even more power than a standard 265 - because I could.

I should say I bought my 265 from Vic and I'm in NSW. Getting a blue slip was a matter of booking it in at the local servo and paying the cash - nothing else. In NSW pretty much the same process as a yearly rego check anyway. No biggie.

I wouldn't be fitting after market seats and then arguing with the insurance company after an accident about whether having no airbags in a car ADR'd with airbags was legal or not - just not worth it.

Cheers

Justin

[Spoku]

6 minutes ago, jberth1 said:

I bought based on options. That's why the options exist - it's a personal choice. I found a car with Recaro's - because I wanted them. They're very comfy and fit like limpets. I wanted LY - you can't get a 250 in LY. I wanted Bi-Xenons - I drive a lot at night as I'm a shift worker so having the best lights sounded good, and I was sick of changing halogen globes. I have a stage 1 tune - even more power than a standard 265 - because I could.

I should say I bought my 265 from Vic and I'm in NSW. Getting a blue slip was a matter of booking it in at the local servo and paying the cash - nothing else. In NSW pretty much the same process as a yearly rego check anyway. No biggie.

I wouldn't be fitting after market seats and then arguing with the insurance company after an accident about whether having no airbags in a car ADR'd with airbags was legal or not - just not worth it.

Cheers

Justin

Is LY lemans yellow? Haven’t heard that abbreviation yet.

it most certainly does suck buying cars in WA as there is next to nothing. At least over east you can drive interstate relatively easily in a half a day or so.

[Skip808]

don't know how you'd get people in the back with race seats at least the og recaros fold forward even then its awkward ish

LY liquid yellow 

[Phillyphil]

Budget for >$2k of car freight from East Coast to Perth. Plus flights to East Coast for inspection or a few hundred to get a specialist to inspect a possible buying option then a ball ache to get it to a freight forwarder. 

Myself and a few guys from my work have transferred cars from Melbourne to Perth with work promotions etc as our Head Office is in Perth. Pre covid this was less than $1k. 

With an inflated new and used car market prices have sky rocketed. People in Perth generally have higher wages due to mining sector so the freight companies are riding the gravy train as consumers pull stock from the East. 

[Spoku]

19 minutes ago, Phillyphil said:

Budget for >$2k of car freight from East Coast to Perth. Plus flights to East Coast for inspection or a few hundred to get a specialist to inspect a possible buying option then a ball ache to get it to a freight forwarder. 

Myself and a few guys from my work have transferred cars from Melbourne to Perth with work promotions etc as our Head Office is in Perth. Pre covid this was less than $1k. 

With an inflated new and used car market prices have sky rocketed. People in Perth generally have higher wages due to mining sector so the freight companies are riding the gravy train as consumers pull stock from the East. 

Far out, I had gotten some quotes for $1.7k give or take and $500 for a PPI. By the time I get the cash for that one it would probable have been sold by then (a good 4-6 months or so)

 

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mullaloo/cars-vans-utes/2011-renault-megane-renault-sport-250-cup-trophee-6-sp-manual-/1298362248

 

This is the black one I referred to earlier. Seems to have gone through a major service which is pretty solid for me. Could negotiate a bit then I'd have enough to pre-pay a year of comp rego through RAC and maybe a tank of 98 after all of the other fees.

[steve]

I will have a Australian Grand Prix edition (black) rs250 2012 with has moon roof, xenons, recaros in around 3/4 weeks

Approx 135k and timing belt will be done in next few weeks 

 

[Spoku]

42 minutes ago, steve said:

I will have a Australian Grand Prix edition (black) rs250 2012 with has moon roof, xenons, recaros in around 3/4 weeks

Approx 135k and timing belt will be done in next few weeks 

 

Ayyyy. I'm interested. What you looking at price wise? Happy to move this to a DM if you prefer (haven't worked it out through this site yet, quite new to the forum but shouldn't be too bad)

[steve]

14 minutes ago, Spoku said:

Ayyyy. I'm interested. What you looking at price wise? Happy to move this to a DM if you prefer (haven't worked it out through this site yet, quite new to the forum but shouldn't be too bad)

Just sent you an inbox 

[Phillyphil]

18 hours ago, Spoku said:

Far out, I had gotten some quotes for $1.7k give or take and $500 for a PPI. By the time I get the cash for that one it would probable have been sold by then (a good 4-6 months or so)

 

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mullaloo/cars-vans-utes/2011-renault-megane-renault-sport-250-cup-trophee-6-sp-manual-/1298362248

 

This is the black one I referred to earlier. Seems to have gone through a major service which is pretty solid for me. Could negotiate a bit then I'd have enough to pre-pay a year of comp rego through RAC and maybe a tank of 98 after all of the other fees.

Looks like a clean car that one

Money appears to been spent where it counts on tires, brakes and maintenance. It could be a good thing pending an inspection. The guy that own Luxe Performance (Race Gear) & tracks a stripped out Renault RS250 uses a business in Yolkine to race prep his car. The business is DC Auto Centre in Yolkine. The owner I believe has a Clio4 RS200 so they know French cars. Other than that Corrado from Euro Care Burswood is supposed to be really good on the Perth Renault and Alipne FB page feedback. Stay away from WA Euro in Osborne Park. He knows his stuff but a bit socially restarted. A Renault Sport Car is sort of like a Porsche " The only bad Porsche is a badly maintained one" same applies with Renault Sport Cars.  

Buying locally is much easier. My buying experience with my wife's Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon from a VW dealer in Victoria was a ball ache...

The PH1 RS250 Trophee gets the nice yellow dials and that's the Renault Sport Monitor I was talking about. I had that same unit in my Clio Gordini. Works really well. I've got another mate I do track days with who has a Facelift RS265 in LY, Recaro CS and with R-Link and the Renault Sport monitor is not as good!  Believe it or not the claimed kerb weight on a meg3 RS is 1380 but putting my mates facelift RS265 on the scales at Barbagallo it weight pretty close to my meg4 RS300 Trophy EDC which is (1443kgs). I believe the facelifted cars must have got more tech, safety that pushed the kerb weight up. The RS250 and pre-facelift RS265 are lighter I have been told by some meg3 RS guru's. 

 

 

 

[Spoku]

5 hours ago, Phillyphil said:

Looks like a clean car that one

Money appears to been spent where it counts on tires, brakes and maintenance. It could be a good thing pending an inspection. The guy that own Luxe Performance (Race Gear) & tracks a stripped out Renault RS250 uses a business in Yolkine to race prep his car. The business is DC Auto Centre in Yolkine. The owner I believe has a Clio4 RS200 so they know French cars. Other than that Corrado from Euro Care Burswood is supposed to be really good on the Perth Renault and Alipne FB page feedback. Stay away from WA Euro in Osborne Park. He knows his stuff but a bit socially restarted. A Renault Sport Car is sort of like a Porsche " The only bad Porsche is a badly maintained one" same applies with Renault Sport Cars.  

Buying locally is much easier. My buying experience with my wife's Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon from a VW dealer in Victoria was a ball ache...

The PH1 RS250 Trophee gets the nice yellow dials and that's the Renault Sport Monitor I was talking about. I had that same unit in my Clio Gordini. Works really well. I've got another mate I do track days with who has a Facelift RS265 in LY, Recaro CS and with R-Link and the Renault Sport monitor is not as good!  Believe it or not the claimed kerb weight on a meg3 RS is 1380 but putting my mates facelift RS265 on the scales at Barbagallo it weight pretty close to my meg4 RS300 Trophy EDC which is (1443kgs). I believe the facelifted cars must have got more tech, safety that pushed the kerb weight up. The RS250 and pre-facelift RS265 are lighter I have been told by some meg3 RS guru's. 

 

 

 

I just got some quotes for a Pre purchase inspection. DC auto will charge me $85 and Eurocare will charge me $150. Quite a big jump. Has anyone got personal experience with Eurocare? If there is more with that $150 then maybe it's worth it.

[Skip808]

2 hours ago, Spoku said:

I just got some quotes for a Pre purchase inspection. DC auto will charge me $85 and Eurocare will charge me $150. Quite a big jump. Has anyone got personal experience with Eurocare? If there is more with that $150 then maybe it's worth it.

yep ive used Corado (sp) at wa eurocare burswood , did the timing belt and brakes on my 8.08 was 1/3the price Renault were going to charge. don't know what the pre inspection is like from him but I won't take my car anywhere else, he knows his Renaults for sure, saw another members car there last week when I popped in to get some oil from him

Edited 12, August 2022 by Skip808

[Spoku]

On 10/08/2022 at 4:25 PM, havingfun said:

The reverse camera is okay to have ( I now have it as I fitted the rlink from a rb8 to my car ) but the std parking front and back sensors on my rs250 work really well,, I still go by these more than using the camera

Hey mate, was your car previously an RS monitor? I am looking at a 2011 Cup trophee and it has the RS monitor and was hoping it would be able to put a new head unit in with apple carplay with a reverse camera possibly whilst keeping the RS monitor 1.0

Edited 15, August 2022 by Spoku

[havingfun]

No RS monitor in mine , it had the carminate sat nav system as standard.

I am not sure if you would loose the "RS monitor 1.0 " by replacing the head unit.

Suppose you could unplug the original head unit and see if "RS monitor" still works, it obviously would no longer  display anything radio related

[Spoku]

43 minutes ago, havingfun said:

No RS monitor in mine , it had the carminate sat nav system as standard.

I am not sure if you would loose the "RS monitor 1.0 " by replacing the head unit.

Suppose you could unplug the original head unit and see if "RS monitor" still works, it obviously would no longer  display anything radio related

Do you have any suggestions on mounting an apple carplay head unit in terms of location? The shape of the dash is a bit weird for me and the fact the aircon controls are above the radio sucks. If it was the other way around that would be okay as the overhang can stem further up the dash... Maybe the aircon and radio control fascia is the same size and cam be swapped over?? If anyone know about this please contribute. Would like to know if it is possible or if I need to buy a car with the GPS and put the carplay HU as a replacement.

[havingfun]

There are units like this out there, https://audiotechdirect.com/pba-re8773m-android-10-0-gps-radio-for-renault-megane-mk3/ 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32526270866.html

Dont know if they are any good though, as in how they sound or quality of build

[Skip808]

hey mate this Sat there's a meet if you are keen  830AM Midalia Steel Carpark Welshpool. 

[Spoku]

Eyyy, might see If i can go to that. You gonna be there? Wanna see that pearl white at some point and see the other cars around.

[Rene]

@havingfunThat Car Play option looks interesting
 

 https://audiotechdirect.com/pba-re8773m-android-10-0-gps-radio-for-renault-megane-mk3/

 

Edited 16, August 2022 by Rene

[Skip808]

3 hours ago, Spoku said:

Eyyy, might see If i can go to that. You gonna be there? Wanna see that pearl white at some point and see the other cars around.

ill be there