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My names Cameron and I love Clio sports.

 

I have wanted one for years now and recently have been looking to selling my 07 Honda Jazz Auto and getting a 182 Cup.

 

Unfortunately, I am a bit short of funds for a 182 Cup so will probably wait until the Clio 3 gets released into Aus as I am pretty sure it will lower the price of P2s.

 

Have test driven 2 182 Cups over the last week and I am totally in LOVE.

 

Going to test drive a 172 this weekend to compare.

 

Cheers

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Nothing really between a 182 cup and a 172 except the suspension and you would probably better off to get after market anyway.

 

No real difference in HP (there is variance in every car) and this has been confirmed a number of times on the Dyno.

 

the 172 is also LIGHTER (and therefore faster)....

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Really?

 

The reason I want a Cup is the suspension, and wheels.

 

The extra power and noise would be nice too! :mrgreen:

 

How does the 172 compare in terms of mid range pull? I found the 182 fantastic for that.

 

In the real world, the 172 suspension in good for those mid corner bumps you may experience on your local hills roads (or "B" roads in general)

 

On the track, the 182 Cup suspension would probably be better.

 

I "only" have a 172 and the suspension is brilliant.

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It would save a hell of a lot of money to get a 172!

 

The cruise control and ESC (pre 03) would also be nice but meh, not a huge prob.

 

In terms of suspension, what have people done? I am actually a former VW nut and have always had one (the honda is my first non-vw).

KW Coilovers are pretty much the 'omg must have' sussy for VWs, anyone know what they are like for the Clio?

 

Are after market exhaust systems easily available for the 172? Remus muffler would be nice.

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It would save a hell of a lot of money to get a 172!

 

The cruise control and ESC (pre 03) would also be nice but meh, not a huge prob.

 

In terms of suspension, what have people done? I am actually a former VW nut and have always had one (the honda is my first non-vw).

KW Coilovers are pretty much the 'omg must have' sussy for VWs, anyone know what they are like for the Clio?

 

Are after market exhaust systems easily available for the 172? Remus muffler would be nice.

 

Eibachs seem to be the spring of choice with Bilstein coilovers for dampers :P

 

There are a few cars running miltek exhaust and a few with the remus, they are a little quiet in IMHO but then the custom one I built was freaking loud, check the video here:

 

 

Walkies now has it with a BMC and I can't wait to hear it should be porn :twisted:

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Welcome aboard

 

Having both a 182 Cup and a 172 (p2) in the family, there's SFA between them around the city. The advantage probably goes to the 172 for its additional suppleness and slight torque advantage at lower RPM. 172 also cruises nicer for longer distances for the same reasons (and retrofitting cruise isn't all that hard).

 

If however, you do or plan to do trackdays or motorsport, then save your bikkies for the 182 Cup. :wink:

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Welcome mate!!

 

You won't be disappointed in an '04 172 w/ Eibachs & Speedlines Turinis!

 

:mrgreen:

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So the 172 is BETTER for lower torque?

 

I think I’m sold on the 172 idea. Especially after looking at some pic's on this forum!

 

The issue that’s bugging me is that, selling a Honda with 5yr warranty for an older Clio with probably no warranty... scary decision... Most Clio’s at dealers have there warranties that state you have to get it serviced by them, I am moving back to the Gold Coast next November so this is not going to help me!

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Welcome mate!!

 

You won't be disappointed in an '04 172 w/ Eibachs & Speedlines Turinis!

 

:mrgreen:

 

Funny you should say that, but after looking at 'storms_of_fate's clio, ive pretty much been sold on silver and those wheels! sorry mate :oops:

 

That's who I was hinting at 8)

 

EDIT: and this one http://ozrenaultsport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6982

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welcome to the forum mate. I test drove both 182 and 172 when I was looking for a renault sport a few months ago and didn't find too much of a difference except cruise. 172 seemed to pick up a bit better too and i'm having a blast at the moment. If you get a late '03 172 it should have switchable esp and as for cruise well I'm anti-cruise but that's probably just me.

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Cheers guys, I am going to try and get an overnight test drive of a RSC this weekend, see if I can live with it :lol: Pretty sure it won’t be too much of an issue!

 

I have found 3 that I'm interested in, 2 x 2002 black (100k+) silver (60k+) and a 2003 flame red (almost 80k). I don’t really want flame red but it does have ESC. Does anyone know if the 03 models have the AC Glove box?

 

Silly Q but I have read a couple of times on this forum that if you aren’t the 1st owner but the car is still under factory warranty, that you can extend it... does this extend to privately sold cars or just stealers?

 

Sorry about all the Qs guys, just want to get my head around this stuff :)

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Welcome.

 

Having owned both the 182 cup and 172 I can speak with some experience. I noticed a lot of difference between the two. That said, my 172 had around 80,000ks when I sold it for the brand new 182 cup. Both are awesome cars.

 

Main differences would be ride quality - far better in the 182 cup, but I had 17" wheels on the 172, so that probably explains it. Also, the 172 clutch was very difficult but the 182 was never a problem. Cruise control is hard to miss if you have never had it before.

 

Best of luck with your search.

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Welcome nerd :)

 

The clutches on all Clios seem to be different - I've driven 3x 172s extensively and taken about another half dozen on test drives (172s, 182 Cups) and noticed differences in each. They are hand-assembled cars and variations are to be expected I guess.

 

As for warranty, you'd be hard pressed to find a 172 with much of an extended warranty left on it - if the previous owner had chosen to get it in the first place. Some very late 182s will still have a little bit of factory warranty which allows you to extend that another 2 years if they haven't done so already.

 

I'm sure you won't be disappointed with whatever you choose - but don't be too critical of ESC as it may save you from a sticky situation one day!

 

Best of luck in your search and wishing you happy Renaultsport motoring to come!

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So after test driving 3 RSC 172 last Friday, I have decided that the 172 is the car for me! I had found the PERFECT one but I did not get the amount I wanted for a trade in.

 

I have decided that I am not selling the Jazz at the moment, its been very reliable as a daily driver so ill be waiting a year until we move back to the Gold Coast to buy one. Hopefully they will have come down in price quite a bit so I can get one on the side :mrgreen:

 

I have never driven a car that I have enjoyed so much! I dreamt about them for a few nights i a row... sad i know :oops:

 

One Q though, the 'perfect' car that I found had cross drilled brakes, it was a 02. This would have been done by the previous owner correct?

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Yes..they are non standard.

 

Go on...get it! Youn know you want to :) You'll find that the yard will move a lot on price. I take it that it's in a dealership? Give a brief profile of the car and how much they are asking. You 'should' be able to get it cheaper if it is non-standard too.

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nerd said

 

 

 

I have never driven a car that I have enjoyed so much! I dreamt about them for a few nights i a row... sad i know

 

 

good to see you have noticed the strenghts of the clio nerd. its a DRIVERS car for sure.

 

Welcome to OZrenault. your comments tell me you will be a fine clio owner and forum member.

 

cheers

 

steve

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hello nerd

 

Welcome to the forum,

We sometimes go for fun drives. Almost all the guys here drive 172's and i can guarantee you, they are very quick cars, I have to make a good effort (with a Megane R26) to pull away from them. So if you are worried that a 172 will be slow don't you worry about that.

I can't think of better fun-value for money. My car perhaps!

Hope you join the group of proud owners.

Regards, Matteo

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  • 3 months later...

Hey Everyone!

 

Haven’t been around for a while as I didn’t have much Internet access; now we got it at home so ill be around a whole lot more!

 

The girlfriend is going to sell her car (1996 Suzuki Swift auto with 52,000klms) soon as I haven’t stopped bugging her for a RSC and she wants the Jazz as a daily driver! This means I will need to finance the remainder of the cost of a RSC which brings me to ask the question:

 

What are the general thoughts about the prices of Ph2 RSC (both private and dealer) once the Ph3 is released in July?

 

We are now staying in Melbourne for another couple of year's so I am very pumped about doing some drive days once I get my mitten's on a RSC!

 

Cheers,

 

Cameron

 

PS: I saw the Ph3 at the Melb Motor Show last week, I like it but it feels a whole lot cheaper (Inside anyway) than the Ph2 does, the Brembo’s and sunroof got me excited though!

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Welcome Cameron.

Regarding the warranty, yes, you can extend it even if you are the second owner and buy privately. I did just that. I bought a car in Melbourne and drove it back here to Adelaide, then went to my local Renault dealer and they happily took my cash to get an extra 50K kms, and 2 years.

 

They are an awesome car.

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These are my thoughts..

 

I read the PhIII thread last night and the consensus is similiar to yours. I have a PhII 172 with and RSTuner kit and remapping and she goes like a rocket and is a buzz to drive everyday. I love the little bastard.

 

You can get an excellent PhII 172 here on OZ rs every few weeks. Many heavily loved and cared for for a very good price. Don't worry about the look of the brakes..they will stop you and fast in a 172.

 

Cheers Cameron and happy hunting..don't rush and choose wisely :wink:

 

Jamie

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Welcome back mate!

 

Try not to get mixed up with Renault's naming methodolgy, as you might end up asking for the wrong thing! :wink: When you say "Ph3" (or "PhIII") I know you are referring to the latest 3rd Generation shape Clio, but Renault call this the Clio III... which at the moment is in its PhI edition internationally (as shown at the Motor Show), but will probably land here in the yet to be seen PhII facelift model in June... the PhIII cars we have had here are more commonly known as the 182, which was the third and final facelift of the Clio II platform (Australia got all three versions of the Clio II incidentally).

 

Now that I've thoroughly confused you... it's good night from me and it's goodnight from him LOL

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Welcome back mate!

 

Try not to get mixed up with Renault's naming methodolgy, as you might end up asking for the wrong thing! :wink: When you say "Ph3" (or "PhIII") I know you are referring to the latest 3rd Generation shape Clio, but Renault call this the Clio III... which at the moment is in its PhI edition internationally (as shown at the Motor Show), but will probably land here in the yet to be seen PhII facelift model in June... the PhIII cars we have had here are more commonly known as the 182, which was the third and final facelift of the Clio II platform (Australia got all three versions of the Clio II incidentally).

 

Now that I've thoroughly confused you... it's good night from me and it's goodnight from him LOL

 

Ah I see whats going on!

 

Yes, I meant the once the Clio III goes on sale in July! 8)

 

Will prices go down like they did when the Mk5 Golf was released? (Pretty much killed the price of my Mk4 GTI when I sold it a year later)

 

Thanks again for the warm welcome, this forum is FANTASTIC! :D

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I really don't think prices will fall that much if at all when the new Clio is released (eventually :roll:).

 

As many have said, it's bigger and less focused than the car it replaces, and I don't think it will appeal to the same market.

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