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Hi guys,

 

I'm new to the forum, renault cars and turbo cars..

 

Currently drive a 98 suby liberty and am seriously considering getting the 07-08 megane sports 225 or 225 cup second hand, and am in MELBOURNE atm. my Budget is between 20-25k and I am looking to get it in black, blue red or silver atm, but really love black as I want to chuck some black rims on it.

 

Had a lot of questions though so I'm glad I found this forum. I know there are a ton of threads like this but I think i have a few more specific questions that haven't been answered recently..keep in mind my car knowledge is not HUGe atm, but am looking to really get to know my car if i get the 225. This car will be my daily driver just for FYI. I don't do huge KM's on my car or go to other cities ever so it's just for going to city, work etc things like that..

 

1. If I'm buying a second hand car, what sort of KM's should the car have done that I should be looking for? 60,000kms as a max?

2. What sort of service fees am I looking at for a regular service and how much roughly does that cost? there is a renault deaership in my suburb, should I be going there for services??

3. Are common parts extremely expensive for the renault? And are there any major services required at certain KM's that I should look forward too? for example like a timing belt change at 100kms or something like that?

4. I've never owned a turbo charged car, and wanted to know if there is any extra knowledge required in maintaining a turbo car?

5. Insurance quotes, anyone have a good idea of which offers the best for renaults?

6. Is there anything else I should be vary amount in general?

 

Again thanks in advance for the help really look forward to some answers.. :):news:

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Great choice of car, you will love it after a Subaru.

 

I would say buy as lower kilometres possible and look for a car that has been owned by a women.

 

At around 90,000km is where the major stuff will need to be done, allow for say $3,500 worth of maintenance, cambelt, water pump, engine mounts, tie rods labour..

 

Brake disks and pads need doing every 60,000k also so check those, if you go genuine expect a $1500-2 bill.

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Hi diop, and welcome

 

1) As few as you can find, but they're mechanically strong, so up to and over 100,000 is fine if the timing belt has been changed. The age range you're looking at falls right where this is due, so keep it in mind.

2) We can't answer unless you let us know where you are :wink: - I use a workshop in Ringwood, and can recommend another in South Melbourne, there are dealers in Richmond, Berwick, Mentone, Geelong, Ringwood and Essendon.

3) Nope.

4) Nope. Keep the maintenance up and regular, and you should be fine.

5) The best prices typically don't offer nice things like choice of reparier. There are seventy-thousand threads, do a search and read up 8)

6) If you're buying privately, I would recommend a car that's advertised here - an enthusiast kept car will typically have been treated better during its life.

 

Are you looking for a 3 or 5 door, cup or lux?

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Yes, what you save in initial costs in buying second hand, you'll be paying in maintenance... same goes for most performance cars really :wink:

Brembo brakes are not cheap, but boy, are they good! (FYI my other half owns the blue 225 F1 in my avatar pic, same batch as Apex's car).

 

Major service intervals are at 60K and 100K cycles or 4yrs. No extra maintenace for turbos IMO, unless you begin tinkering. Just need to make sure they are not abused.

 

Insurance is a Pandora's Box, with so many variables. The major companies should know what it is.

 

All the best in your search, and welcome to OzRS.

Cheers, Dish.

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Thanks Apex,

 

Just to clarify, you said if you go genuine service (which is renault dealers im assuming) then you're looking at 1500-2k, but how often will that service be, once a yr? Sorry for the very vague questions, just trying to get the budget prepared, because this car looks to be very expensive (additional 4-5k per yr just for insurance+service+rego)..that's nearly 20% of what I'm going to be paying for the car itself..

 

Also wanted to know if getting the 225 cup over the 225 is a big difference? I want a coupe version of the car but it seems pretty rare on carsales even in 4 door..

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I was just at Alpine Affaire this morning to collect my 182 after a service. They have a silver Phase II 225 3dr (non-Cup) for sale at the moment. Some may recall it - it has a lovely deep red leather interior (aftermarket).

Give Colin a call: 9879 1961

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Great choice of car, you will love it after a Subaru.

 

I would say buy as lower kilometres possible and look for a car that has been owned by a women.

 

At around 90,000km is where the major stuff will need to be done, allow for say $3,500 worth of maintenance, cambelt, water pump, engine mounts, tie rods labour..

 

Brake disks and pads need doing every 60,000k also so check those, if you go genuine expect a $1500-2 bill.

 

Aren't you from NZ? How do you know how much we pay for services and parts here? :) We have 2 non Renault specialists in Melbourne that do things a lot cheaper for example. We also have the services of Wolf which means we get OEM parts much cheaper from Renault.

 

" look for a car that has been owned by a women"

 

Why? I could give you a few reasons why you wouldn't purchase a car off a woman, but I'm not going there... :lol: There are pro's and cons for buying off both sexes.

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wow awesome advice so far thanks all

I actually live kind of near the glen waverley dealership, but should I still be going to the ringwood one? Also how much is a minor general service going to come up to?

 

Dish im actually looking for a 3 door, but what is the difference between the cup and lux? I havent seen teh lux on carsales yet is that a luxury edition?

 

at the moment all i've seen is on carsales and redbook is 225, 225 cup and f1 team..

 

apex with the brake pads you said costing 1.5-2k to get redone for when it happens, is there a run around for that ? for example can you buy teh break pads yourself somewhere and then pay for the just the labour? Or does everyone here just pay the top dollar for getting hteir car serviced no matter if its minor or major?

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Great choice of car, you will love it after a Subaru.

 

I would say buy as lower kilometres possible and look for a car that has been owned by a women.

 

At around 90,000km is where the major stuff will need to be done, allow for say $3,500 worth of maintenance, cambelt, water pump, engine mounts, tie rods labour..

 

Brake disks and pads need doing every 60,000k also so check those, if you go genuine expect a $1500-2 bill.

 

Aren't you from NZ? How do you know how much we pay for services and parts here? :) We have 2 non Renault specialists in Melbourne that do things a lot cheaper for example. We also have the services of Wolf which means we get OEM parts much cheaper from Renault.

 

" look for a car that has been owned by a women"

 

Why? I could give you a few reasons why you wouldn't purchase a car off a woman, but I'm not going there... :lol: There are pro's and cons for buying off both sexes.

 

Hi portal,

 

I assume apex meant that a car run driven by a guy is more likely to get thrashed then that driven by a girl ahha. But with this sort of power in a car i wouldn’t think many chicks would have bought..

 

Also what did you mean by 2 non Renault specialists in melb that are a lot cheaper? And the services of WOLF what is that?

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From local experience (im in NZ) its more the cost of genuine parts with the dealers extravagant mark up and exuberant labour costs, from what I have been told its similar in Australia.

 

If you can find an alternative parts supplier and get mechanical work done by a quality independent worship ownership is a lot less painful, we are a friendly bunch around here and have a good network of experience as to where to go for service and what to pay for this and that from here and there.

 

I can tell you the premium cost of maintenance is well worth it for the privilege of owning such a great car, especially in Cup form.

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Minor services are low hundreds, and largely dependant on who you select.

 

Alpine Affaire is who I use to service all 3 Renaults in my household. Honest, well priced and also a nut about the marque.

 

Wolf is someone you should get to know after you buy one. He's our worst-kept secret 8)

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low hundreds sound great. i'd be happy to pay 3-400 for a minor service once or twice a yr to make sure my cars in good knick :) And Alpine affaire is the palce to go it seems so i'll make a note of that.

 

Another question i did have was about the elctronics of the car. I read somewhere cant remember where now but they were saying how the renault megane 2 has bad electronics and faulty wiring or something like that and can come back to haunt u. hmm sounded like a bit of a myth but ye just wanted to know.

 

I also wanted to ask if any of them coem with sunroof? i really wanted a coupe with sunroof and leather interior thats my ideal one but they dont seem to exist unless someone did some aftermarket stuff to it

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low hundreds sound great. i'd be happy to pay 3-400 for a minor service once or twice a yr to make sure my cars in good knick :) And Alpine affaire is the palce to go it seems so i'll make a note of that.

 

Another question i did have was about the elctronics of the car. I read somewhere cant remember where now but they were saying how the renault megane 2 has bad electronics and faulty wiring or something like that and can come back to haunt u. hmm sounded like a bit of a myth but ye just wanted to know.

 

I also wanted to ask if any of them coem with sunroof? i really wanted a coupe with sunroof and leather interior thats my ideal one but they dont seem to exist unless someone did some aftermarket stuff to it

 

They don't do a Coupe model, only a CC.

 

All brands of cars can have electrical issues and its always the very few that do that give the majority a bad name.

 

The only common fault I know of is electric window loom problems, in saying that when mine had a problem it was a cheap fix with electrical connector cleaner and good old “Nintendo Cartridge Reboot†blow of air on the plugs.

 

An Independent specialist t is the way to go and Alpine Affair sounds the place to go.

 

Good luck!

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I don't think the cup version comes in a 3 door. When I bought mine I preferred a non-cup in 4 doors (ph2) but I don't think this combination is available either :?

 

As for a specialist mechanic, you should also consider Virage in S Melb. Karl is very knowledgeable on the RS brand and a good bloke. A regular service should be $200-300, so not much more than any other regular brand really. A dealer will charge approximately twice as much.

 

I used Alpine Affaire for the belt change on my old 182 and they were fine.....but for one small issue which I have previously disclosed on this forum but nobody seemed to question :wink:

 

I would love an original Renault sunroof on my car (like in the Lux model).....but it needs to be an aftermarket one and I wouldn't bother.

 

You will love the car. Good luck.

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Wolf is someone you should get to know after you buy one. He's our worst-kept secret 8)

 

Yet even Griff wants a piece of the action. :wink:

Anyways, howdy, and as above - the main issue i seem to see :wink: (only now and then) are the window regulators. But as mentioned above, try other avenues of repair first. ie: give it a clean.

In short i provide a service whereby i deliver New Genuine RS parts to your door. Cheaper than retail, sometimes by quite a lot.

Also, rims and tyres should your hunt begin for the black ones. Genuine and Aftermarket rims (and tyre combo etc).

Wish the best with your hunt, the thing about these cars is that they can sting a bit mor more... but the enjoyment of driving them seems to be endless.... cause it is :mrgreen:

Hope to see you around, and send me an email if ever you need a quote.

Cheers,

WOLF

ps: this goes for you too Apex. NZ is also within my range. :wink:

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Thanks for the advice again guys.. I still need to test drive the car but still ahve this and a couple other cars to consider..

 

I also love the clio 200 sports 2010 version.. love it, but cheapest one i found on carsales was for 35k :( if i could get for like 28k i would put it up there on my list, but i doubt i'll ever find one like that at this time as it only came out recently eeveyrone will still be selling it high.

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Hi

 

I'm in tassie ATM but will post more detail later

 

Cup chassis on the phase 2 came in 3 door however was limited to 225 f1 and 230 R26.

 

They are a good car but I would advise to budget maybe 3.5k in servicing over 2 years especially with tyres, brakes and timing belts. (based on 15k per year in kilometers)

 

What else are you looking at for the money? If there's anything I've Learnt about my F1 over the last 2 days it's that it has alot more confidence, balls and poised than I do as a driver :)

 

Goodluck wit the search and hope you find one!

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Thanks for the advice again guys.. I still need to test drive the car but still ahve this and a couple other cars to consider..

 

I also love the clio 200 sports 2010 version.. love it, but cheapest one i found on carsales was for 35k :( if i could get for like 28k i would put it up there on my list, but i doubt i'll ever find one like that at this time as it only came out recently eeveyrone will still be selling it high.

 

28k will get you into an R26. A black on with 33k on the clock.

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