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G'day,

 

I've decided to forget the poll and base the decision of card/sticker design on what has been discussed so far in the previous thread.

 

However, I will leave this new thread open for those who wish to voice their opinions. Then I will make the final decision by next Wednesday (October 6) based on the majority of opinions/views.

 

So - here is what I see as the majority opinion SO FAR. If you disagree with the proposed design/concept - please reply with your suggestions here & we can make any adjustments based on the majority vote.

The Cards

- Double Sided cards, with each Renaultsport URL devoted to one side.

- One side: Yellow theme (Grant "OZ RS Card" or Dish's "Dish#2" designs)

- Other side: Blue theme (Ryan's "Renaultsport card")

- Text on each side: TBA (Enter your ideas here)

 

The Stickers

- Yellow theme (Grant's "OZ RS Card")

- Text on sticker to read as follows:

Join Australia's Two diverse Renaultsport Communities

Web based forum: www.ozrenaultsport.com

Yahoo/Email Group: www.ozrenaultsport.tk

 

Assuming we're all ok with my proposed layouts and so on, the only decisions from here is in relation to the text to be printed on each side of the cards. And the toss-up between Grant's "Oz RS Card" or Dish's "Dish#2" card design for one YELLOW side of the card. I'd say the blue option is fairly obvious - with the use of Ryan's design.

 

So - I think we have some awesome looking product design on our hands, thoughts people?

 

:wink: Have a great week!

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i'm all about those cards... the two sided idea is sweet.

 

yet to be sold on the stickers, but i'll chip in if need be to make it happen.

 

Saw three RCS's yesterday within about a hundred meters of each other, has reaching for my cards but... :shock:

 

as a great man once said...

 

DO IT, DO IT...

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I like the idea of a double sided card. And do like Dish's Dish#2 design. :)

 

 

Still not really sold on a sticker though, but like Rusty said, will put in if needed....

 

And as for wording, I think Dish's#2 is just fine...

 

As you can see I'm not too fussed either way :P (just happy that this ball is a rollin')

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wheres the design guys? I wouldnt mind checking them out :P

 

you will have to sign upto the yahoo group, then go to their gallery area, then click on the cards folder... the desigens will be here http://tinyurl.com/6p9bp

 

easy to use hey... :wink:

 

but thats where they are...

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Card preferences for me are

 

Yellow side - Dont mind, both are fine (but dont like the 'oz' font on Dish's #2 - Grant's 'OZ' font is better)

Blue side - 'Renaultsport card'

 

Text: I think the text on the RenaultSport card is good. Dont like "heaps more" phrase on "Oz RS Card".

 

Also, if we want a disclaimer, a single line would fit on the blue side at the bottom, since there's only one URL to list there now. Besides, it can be in tiny font anyway.

 

I dont really want stickers at all, but as others have said, I'll put in some money if required (as long as they're not too much)

 

For those that are too severely challenged by Yahoo :)

 

*** Grant's OZ RS Card ***

OZ_RS_Card.jpg

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*** Dish's Dish #2 ***

Dish_2.jpg

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*** Ryan's Renaultsport Card ***

Renaultsport.jpg

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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I think if we go with any disclaimer it should be very short and one line right along the bottom in very small text.

 

Also I love Ryans blue card but dont like the newly added 'Oz' text. Its just the wrong font and doesnt match the rest. Something closer in style to the other two lines (Renault and sport) and in line with one or both of them would be good.

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G'day All,

 

I've read through everyone's comments, posts and the database that exists in the yahoo group. The final designs are as follows. Pretty much as I had already proposed last week, only a few minor changes.

 

The Cards

- Double Sided cards, with each Renaultsport URL devoted to one side.

- One side: Yellow theme (Grant "OZ RS Card"design - WITHOUT the "Heaps more" text...instead put "SOCIAL GATHERINGS") URL: Yahoo/Email Group: www.ozrenaultsport.tk

- Other side: Blue theme (Ryan's "Renaultsport card") TEXT: Web based forum: www.ozrenaultsport.com

 

The Stickers

- Yellow theme (Grant's "OZ RS Card")

- Text on sticker to read as follows:

Join Australia's Two diverse Renaultsport Communities

Web based forum: www.ozrenaultsport.com

Yahoo/Email Group: www.ozrenaultsport.tk

 

Could Grant and Ryan please make any alterations, etc and forward their designs with 2mm bleed, in a suitable format to my email address? Thanks guys!

 

powerproductions@optusnet.com.au

 

Well, we've made a decision and I think it's a great decision and the cards and stickers will look awesome!

 

Payment details...I think we should follow Rusty's suggestion here and basically pay for what we want. For example; If you would like 100 cards and 50 stickers, you pay $10 in total for cards, and $5 in total for stickers. That would work out to be around 10c a card, and 20c a sticker.

 

Does this sound reasonable guys and gals?

 

Open to suggestions of course!

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I thought October 6 would mean until the end of October 6 :?

 

Well, I have polished up my design, keeping things such as future proofing in mind. You'll find it in the Yahoo Cards folder...

http://tinyurl.com/5z6uy

 

I have some issues. Well, apart from the cut-off date...

 

Dave, I truly appreciate the effort & balls required to take on this incredibly difficult topic, and you have handled it well for the most of it, however there are some things that I think require further thought before sending things off for printing. I think the one week which was thankfully extended to 2 was still too short. Some of us have very busy schedules. I don't know if everyone's opinions have really been noted, understood, or "democratically" compiled. The database in Yahoo was abandoned by you after 8 votes were cast, and I don't recall you having informed the Yahoo-ists that that was the case.

 

I think there should have been simpler polls set up for the voting of the final designs, and perhaps even one for whether the cards should be single or double sided. Double sided 4 colour printing is EXPENSIVE. Much cheaper to do a single-colour on the reverse.

 

The designs chosen by you are not exactly future proof. Renault have abandoned the blue arcs, and are going yellow. Their fonts have changed. Having pics of cars on there will date them even quicker.

 

Also, I firmly believe a disclaimer is essential. Ryan's design is too official looking and will be seen as "passing off" if manure hits the cooling device.

 

Now, this isn't a case of sour grapes, but 4 of those 8 votes were for my 2nd design! (Yes, and you cast one of those, along with much praise :wink: ) Please consider my statements carefully, as I am saying this for the benefit of all forum & Yahoo members alike.

 

Cheers, Dish.

 

 

PS> ummm how the hell do you stick pictures in a post? :oops:

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Hey Dish,

 

Sorry mate, I guess I did jump the gun a bit. Just wanted to have the whole topic sorted and ready to roll. :oops:

 

But you're spot on the ball mate. I agree 100% with your opinions. Thanks for the feedback - without this it can be easy to overlook some of the most obvious points. i.e. my decision to abandon the yahoo poll idea.

 

Now - further suggestions as to exactly how this poll is cast would be terrific. My guess is that the best option is to either create a new thread with everyone answering the questions (similar to my first thread re: designs) OR create another dB in the Yahoo group? I guess the Yahoo option's disadvantage is the fact that you need sign in/be a member of the group.

 

Dish - I'd have to say that overall I think I like your latest design the best mate - and yes you did score highly originally from my vote.

 

Being busy is exactly why I kinda rushed this mate, didn't want it to drag on and on. So let's select a new deciding date - and to be honest I don't think it should be any longer than a single week. Why? Because we'll get a majority vote of the main users of the group/s. Anyone else is either A) rarely online, or B) Not phased as to having their input. and/or C) Want the cards in their hands as apposed to in our heads/on our computers.

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ahh so many choices.. i like the last design too... hehe

 

maybe if the images were hosted and posted in a new thread, with vote for either A,B,C etc we might get a clearer indication of what the whole group want.

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Double sided 4 colour printing is EXPENSIVE. Much cheaper to do a single-colour on the reverse.

 

But we already had a price for this, and it was not expensive at all.

 

The designs chosen by you are not exactly future proof. Renault have abandoned the blue arcs, and are going yellow. Their fonts have changed. Having pics of cars on there will date them even quicker.

 

I dont really think it matters if renault is using whatever colours... we're not making cards for renault. As long as the design looks good, the I think it's fine.

 

Also, I firmly believe a disclaimer is essential. Ryan's design is too official looking and will be seen as "passing off" if manure hits the cooling device

 

Yeah, a disclaimer is required, but I think a single, 6-point size line will be fine in my opinion, so we dont need it to take up 1/2 of a side of a card.

 

ow, this isn't a case of sour grapes, but 4 of those 8 votes were for my 2nd design! (Yes, and you cast one of those, along with much praise Wink

 

Yeah, for the two sided card, yours was one of the designs I recommended for one of the sides.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott.

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Hi all,

 

I am truly lovin' the emotional & passionate responses that this whole topic is grenerating, not to mention my regenerated creative side :idea: that has lain dorment for way too long. I'll try to get some sticker proposals done on Sunday/Monday too, but I thought the cards were a higher priority hence my efforts have been concentrated on that only.

 

Dave, I'm so glad that my comments weren't taken the wrong way there chum... the last thing I wanted was a slanging match!

 

As for final dates, may I make the following suggestions:

Artwork deadline (cards & stickers) - 9am Monday October 18.

Voting deadline (cards & stickers) - 9am Monday October 25.

 

Being the Bathurst weekend this 9th/10th some people may not have time to knock anything up, and a midweek deadline may be a little unfair for some.

 

The dB format in the Yahoo forum is probably better for the viewing & voting system, however I agree that the membership requirement is a smallish hurdle... Also, the Yahoo group has gone very quiet on the topic again - have they lost their enthusiasm so soon?

 

One important factor I failed to mention in my post from yesterday was that I think a 2-sided card with a different design per side may in fact give the impression that the groups are more fragmented than they are. Yes these are 2 independent entities, but we have a common purpose don't we? And many members in common too!

 

Scott said:

I dont really think it matters if renault is using whatever colours... we're not making cards for renault. As long as the design looks good, the I think it's fine.

I agree that we aren't making cards for Renault, and I don't want the card looking like an official Renault product, but I don't want this to be something akin to an historical relic either! The card we end up choosing will be a tool to entice new people to join our groups. If it looks fresh then the impression will subconsciously be a more favorable one. We don't want to be lookin old hat!!

 

As for the disclaimer, my proposal's reverse has one that takes up only about 1/5th of the reverse. I deliberated about the wording with much head-scratching. It would be nigh on impossible to summarise it any further without introducing ambiguity into the statement, as far as I see it. I don't profess to being a specialist in legal language, but I have read enough contracts to know what will and what won't pass the legal beagles.

 

Thanks for your votes of confidence fellas! I promise not to introduce any new taxes for drivers of French cars!! :P

 

Cheers, Dish.

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I think you may find that because of the email based nature of the .tk group things get buried or forgotten quite quickly... and they only ever really talk about one or two things at a time...

 

Anyway i am also real excited about this and congrats to everyone on their awesome designs, you're all winners... i just can't wait for the acceptance speach from the final designers...

 

Hanging for cards!

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can we PLEASE just get something printed. i dont give a rats ass what they look like and between the 30 or so of us cost shouldnt be an issue. lets just get out name out there. if the design sucks we can change it next time.

 

deb

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G'day All,

 

I've been away from the computer for the last couple of days - but after taking in the thoughts of Dish, I have come back with this plan to get us to our final (and i mean final) steps of choosing the correct cards and sticker.

 

So here you go guys - make your vote - ON THIS THREAD - reply by simply stating; 'sticker A' or 'sticker B' for the sticker selection. Then "Cards A, B or C" to choose your favourite card design.

 

You can preview these cards and stickers (all merged into a single image file) via the link below....

 

STICKER & CARD PREVIEW

 

Voting deadline (cards & stickers) - 9am Monday October 25.

 

CAST YOUR VOTE NOW!!!

*The final design decision will be based on the majority vote

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I'll put a 1 above the line for dish's final proposal, i can't be bothered with the whole 1-78 shenanigans...

 

And i'll back Ryans horse all the way for the other side just cause the blue and yellow will contrast better than two yellow designs...

 

Top work everyone who had a scribble, they all look awesome!

 

Let's hear it for democracy!!!

 

and Karlos neither did your avatar :lol:

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Hello again ppl,

 

unfortunately my link hasn't worked - as you all found out. But all will be fixed Tuesday by lunchtime. Karl has offered to host the pic's on his own site. So the dramas shall clear! :wink:

 

Thanks for the vote though Rusty.

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Yo Dave,

I think you need to edit your message and put in the new link to Karlos' site.

 

Or Karlos,

Can you post a link here?

 

Cheers, Dish.

 

geez you think you can just boss everyone around with that moving avatar of yours dont you :lol::lol::lol:

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geez you think you can just boss everyone around with that moving avatar of yours dont you :lol::lol::lol:

 

nah, I just wish mine was as smoothly animated as yours bud!

 

Anyways, I shall cast my vote....

 

Stickers: if voting is compulsory, I tick the "B" box. But I wouldn't want one anyway on my car.

 

Cards: "C" (of course, I am biased :P )

 

Cheers, Dish.

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Finally had a chance to alter my preview link...but yes Karl beat me to it. Feel free to click on either - and cast your vote. Theyre all the same at the end of the day.

:wink:

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Thanks for your help in keeping tallies Karl. :)

 

Well yes, I kinda forgot about the fact I need to vote also! :D

 

I'll vote for:

 

CARD - 'C'

 

&

 

STICKER - 'B'

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Good question Karl. :? I'd say he's probably blind drunk somewhere in Sydney - or surrounding areas. Possibly even hungover in bed? Other than that I haven't many more ideas?? hehe!

 

I'd say he'll be voting for his own stuff tho' - but you never know - I shall SMS him to see where he's drinking at. Ooops, I mean where he's at. :wink:

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Boys & Girls,

 

Grant, who originally designed card A - has altered his design to incorporate the double-sided design.

 

We'll name this new design CARD A - Mk11. So if you'd like to preview the design click on the link below and post if you want to alter your card selection.... :)

 

CARD A -MK11 - LINK

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excellent work guys, keep it up. 12 people from both sides have voted, all the usual suspects have already pitched in except Mr Foxman, actually where is Mr Foxman these days??? Dave? ideas? anyway, looking good people.

 

Iam still here my friends.

 

Just been very busy with work and motorbike riding and the like!

 

Dave no iam not in the gutter today the street sweeper work me up at 6am lol :lol:

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excellent work guys, keep it up. 12 people from both sides have voted, all the usual suspects have already pitched in except Mr Foxman, actually where is Mr Foxman these days??? Dave? ideas? anyway, looking good people.

 

Iam still here my friends.

 

Just been very busy with work and motorbike riding and the like!

 

Dave no iam not in the gutter today the street sweeper work me up at 6am lol :lol:

 

good ta hear! :D you voting mate?

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Lets call a wrap on the voting and get to the printing!

 

I've got the DC3 gassed up and ready for some low level flying and propaganda distribution over the city streets!

 

Mr Power, are you taking point on this?

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