Teki04 Posted 31, December 2006 Report Share Posted 31, December 2006 I think MarkLikvor is a bot - we had something similar about 1 month ago - KILL HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 31, December 2006 Report Share Posted 31, December 2006 SantoSkO lopaayder both with posts in off topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teki04 Posted 31, December 2006 Report Share Posted 31, December 2006 Hey guys, I know NOTHING about how to run a website or forum, but I'm sure this sort of thing can be stopped? I could name quite a few forums that don't have these problems - what is different about ours? Can someone shed some light on this... cause it's really getting out of hand. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosey Posted 31, December 2006 Report Share Posted 31, December 2006 Hey guys, I know NOTHING about how to run a website or forum, but I'm sure this sort of thing can be stopped? I could name quite a few forums that don't have these problems - what is different about ours? Can someone shed some light on this... cause it's really getting out of hand. Cheers This is true. I'm not aware of this problem at Aussiefrogs, for example. I'll PM their admin and see what I can find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biologist Posted 2, January 2007 Report Share Posted 2, January 2007 Hey guys, I know NOTHING about how to run a website or forum, but I'm sure this sort of thing can be stopped? I could name quite a few forums that don't have these problems - what is different about ours? Can someone shed some light on this... cause it's really getting out of hand. Cheers Many forums require new members to be vetted by an admin before they can join and even then a 'fake' member can still get through the system. The forums you've not seen any of this problem with have probably got some seriously dedicated admins who spend a lot of time cleaning these out. I reckon its great our members are on the hunt for these buggers, saves us heaps of time looking for them. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teki04 Posted 2, January 2007 Report Share Posted 2, January 2007 Hey guys, I know NOTHING about how to run a website or forum, but I'm sure this sort of thing can be stopped? I could name quite a few forums that don't have these problems - what is different about ours? Can someone shed some light on this... cause it's really getting out of hand. Cheers Many forums require new members to be vetted by an admin before they can join and even then a 'fake' member can still get through the system. The forums you've not seen any of this problem with have probably got some seriously dedicated admins who spend a lot of time cleaning these out. I reckon its great our members are on the hunt for these buggers, saves us heaps of time looking for them. Cheers, Are you sure though? Almost certain NO forum has a 24 hour admin/mod on the web deleting posts. We are constantly getting spamming about sexual orientations, positions and then technological software advances (apparently). I don't think other forums get quite so much spam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 2, January 2007 Report Share Posted 2, January 2007 Think you have this misunderstood Teki. What a lot of other forums have is an admin/moderator vetting NEW memberships, and guests are not permitted to post. Thus, the bots apply, and are refused membership by the admin when he/she logs on. The system is not foolproof, and causes a delay for new members, but it would stop most bots. anyways, we have another one: BestMusics with a post in off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murcod Posted 3, January 2007 Report Share Posted 3, January 2007 Have a look at what the original post has been changed to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted 3, January 2007 Report Share Posted 3, January 2007 http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=783 Have a look at what the original post has been changed to! If thats a bot, thats hell cool. (in an uncool sort of way) I believe of lot of the "bots" that don't post have been caught out by the email verification process, as even if you join up, but then don't verify you are still listed as a member. The ones that are managing to post, are real freaking smart. while I doubt other forums have mods onboard 24hours, I also doubt that a lot of them have members that stare at the memberlist 24hours a day. I know a lot of the Rcdrift sites I am affiliated with, Admin receives your registration, but has to manually authourise it ( I believe this is an option that comes up with logged into the admin section of the forum, so it is accesible by all admins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portal Posted 3, January 2007 Report Share Posted 3, January 2007 THis forum uses phpbb right? If so, this is a good resource for you guys. http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=427852 Need to do more research! I can help you guys out when I come back from holidays, and ask some colleagues at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 3, January 2007 Report Share Posted 3, January 2007 Thanks for the alert there murcod... check out what I did in response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_realscott Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 Hi Admin folks (and others that might be interested!), I dont know if phpbb has any kind of facility to implement this scheme, but I signed up to another forum recently that had a good spam-proofing method... Basically, you had to achieve a post count of 10 before you could post to any forum section except one. The way it works is that people with a post count of 10 or less are restricted to a single forum section. There's a forum section just for newbies that has 10 threads in it, and no new threads can be started there... New members just click each one, post 'test' or some other bit of junk, and do the same for each one. When their post count reaches 10, they're able to post anywhere. That way, no spam bots can get through. Any interest in that? I reckon maybe reduce it to 5 or something becuause 10 was a bit of a pain. They also organise it so you cant post twice in less than 10 minutes to the same thread, or it joins your last few posts into one, which is also a pain in the a***. They also have some really nice forum software called Invision Power Board (v2.1.7). If anyone is interested in checking it out, it's the Australian Digital TV Forums: http://www.dtvforum.info/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_realscott Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 PS: Anyone interested in cheap V!agra or Rx drugs? PPS: Dish, please don't ban me... it was just a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_realscott Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 And how about this member that just joined up http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/forum/pro ... de19206347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 Thanks for the info Scott Don't need Viagra at the moment, but I may need some painkillers after I pummel these spammers... I had already deleted that first post by this new "member". When I get a chance later I will delete the dozen or so spammers that have joined recently. Anyways, as Groucho Marx once wrote: "I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 Does this help Admins? Doctormstr - advertiser or bot homegerre - as below Kennypor - ICQ no is invalid and fields are full or garbage or ads; www link is commercial JoeNuKENd - as above onyourcialis - as above patuvammnogoo - as above BestMusics - as above WWWhell - as above PPCmann - as above plus advertising in location Nikolava - icq no is for a female; website russian antivirus KleopatrA - p0rn advertising mortgrate - suspect onyourcialis - suspect MarkLikvor I believe is a bot; ICQ no is invalid (interests listed as "Advertisers") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Posted 4, January 2007 Report Share Posted 4, January 2007 LOL I'll take a handfull of each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Posted 5, January 2007 Report Share Posted 5, January 2007 Doctormstr Trying to deal on OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Revs] Posted 5, January 2007 Report Share Posted 5, January 2007 Id like to offer a warm welcome to the forums newest member: clitrubbingfoxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biologist Posted 5, January 2007 Report Share Posted 5, January 2007 1 - clitrubbinginfoxxx 2 - Odinesta 4 - violalmina 5 - Doctormstr 6 - georgij 7 - crazuMovies 8 - doxtorfuns 9 - homegerre 10 - JoeNuKENd 11 - Kennypor 12 - adultcomicssitedessaa 13 - mortgrate 14 - onyourcialis 15 - rizolinhkq 19 - patuvammnogoo 20 - BestMusics 21 - KleopatrA 22 - Nikolava 23 - WWWhell 25 - PPCmann 28 - DogBiscuitBitez 29 - WeilManlich 30 - SantoSkO 31 - lopaayder 32 - MarkLikvor All GONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffyn Posted 5, January 2007 Report Share Posted 5, January 2007 I signed up for the cliosport.net forums last night, and they have a 3-way tie to defeat bots 1. the type the code thing 2. respond to email 3. click agree button (not available to click until delay of 15s after page finished loading) after attempting to submit first post, then submit again. might be worth having a chat with an admin about beefing up our system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 Bagamas NickolasVanily porsrtrtã XXRumers all gone... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 see-her-squirtsdq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 CECILIA santosko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 Not so sure if santosko is legit or not as his email address is from the peugeot-club.org domain... but it is possibly a Russian site as I cannot understand the language nor the characters! I have disabled his web link however. Deleted the following though: CECELIA see-her-squirtsdq presley bestbyviagra distrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 OK, it may just be a stop-gap measure, but I have made some changes to the way guests see things... basically they now have very limited abilities, and can only see the FAQ and Newbies section, which have also been moved to the top so that if we have any "I have been looking for your 'FAQ' forum for a while now, and I am so excited to see your 'FAQ' messages" then we know we have a bot (or a loser) among us... if anything, it will at least save Jeffster any further embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jeffster Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 OK, it may just be a stop-gap measure, but I have made some changes to the way guests see things... basically they now have very limited abilities, and can only see the FAQ and Newbies section, which have also been moved to the top so that if we have any "I have been looking for your 'FAQ' forum for a while now, and I am so excited to see your 'FAQ' messages" then we know we have a bot (or a loser) among us... if anything, it will at least save Jeffster any further embarrassment you talk to one bot and you never live it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbeam Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 A couple of posts to Off Topic this morning suggest the new blocker system may not be working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted 6, January 2007 Report Share Posted 6, January 2007 is it possible to reject any '.com' email address applicants when subscribing to ozrenaultsport? all of these clowns are from america (or use temporary hosting .com addresses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 7, January 2007 Report Share Posted 7, January 2007 Knoche: the methods I tried still won't stop a bot from registering as a member and then posting. It's just that they seem to be either posting in the first forum (hence why I moved the FAQ up the line) or are selectively choosing the "Off Topic" forum. Pablo: I don't think we can filter things that easily. There are a couple of shortcomings with this BB software, namely green-lighting new members by way of filtration or "tests". Jeffster: sorry matey, I couldn't resist commenting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 7, January 2007 Report Share Posted 7, January 2007 Hi all, some further news that you should find encouraging... I have implemented a feature that will now mean every Admin receives an email stating that a new member has registered their interest in joining our much loved forum, It is then upto the first one of us to receive/react to this alert to then verify the details of the newbie before activating their membership. Only then will they be able to post a message. This should bring a marked reduction to the number of bots registering in the first place, and a subsequent reduction in the number of human spammers trying to get through thereafter. YAY! So perhaps a little more work for us Admins, but less crap for you guys to put up with. I shall leave the FAQ & Newbies sections at the top of the list for the time being though. Cheers, Dish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.Sport Posted 7, January 2007 Report Share Posted 7, January 2007 Hi all, some further news that you should find encouraging... I have implemented a feature that will now mean every Admin receives an email stating that a new member has registered their interest in joining our much loved forum, It is then upto the first one of us to receive/react to this alert to then verify the details of the newbie before activating their membership. Only then will they be able to post a message. This should bring a marked reduction to the number of bots registering in the first place, and a subsequent reduction in the number of human spammers trying to get through thereafter. YAY! So perhaps a little more work for us Admins, but less crap for you guys to put up with. I shall leave the FAQ & Newbies sections at the top of the list for the time being though. Cheers, Dish. Just to confirm. The above works rather well. We can't stop the bots from finding the site and registering as new members, but hopefully the above system of cross-checking email with OzRS Memberlist will eliminate (though, not entirely) the constant spamming. Regards. OzRenaultsport Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teki04 Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jeffster Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Dish with the new approval system, maybe we can go back to have the forum open again to view if your not logged in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portal Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Why can't you login, and tell your browser to save your password? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teki04 Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Why can't you login, and tell your browser to save your password? Work computer.... don't exactly want others to um... find there way here Not only that... but newbies aren't sure what they are in for before they sign up. Dunno if member numbers will drop or increase. I guess it has pros and cons to the new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.Sport Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Why can't you login, and tell your browser to save your password? Work computer.... don't exactly want others to um... find there way here Not only that... but newbies aren't sure what they are in for before they sign up. Dunno if member numbers will drop or increase. I guess it has pros and cons to the new system. Yes. It's a pain to have to login everytime you want to read. But given the amount of unwanted traffic in the last 6 months... It's a better system. It stops the bots from registering and posting (that rubbish) straight away. It's not permanent. But it will stay. OzRenaultsport Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 Sorry to take such drastic action guys & gals, but not only does this slow/prevent the spammers this also prevents the "Bandwidth exceeded" issues because the Google spiders etc can only search and file the FAQ & Newbies sections. Yes it can be a pain if you have to login every time, but its a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things. Personally, I don't think this will slow the uptake of new members - if anything it should encourage the serious ones. Thanks for putting up with our efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendans225 Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 Login issue is easy - just set it so that windows remembers your username and ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portal Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I'm having to log in now to view the website - is this normal and a method we are using to stop their posts? It's currently annoying me at work as I only get spurts of about 2 minutes free to have a quick read... and I can't! Why can't you login, and tell your browser to save your password? Work computer.... don't exactly want others to um... find there way here I can show you how to get rid of the login from Windows, it can't be detected... I don't have a problem with this new setup, it reduces traffic, and it's done the job so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pops Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 I've been away on chrissy hols for a few weeks and have only just caught up with the bots issues. My concern (if we ban them) is how do I locate the best mobile viagra combo deal? I depend on these bots to tell me how to extend my private parts, lose weight on the public parts, fully satisfy my loved one(s) and in lieu of a fag afterwards have some cheap medication sourced from a reliable prescription-free pharmacy in Botswana. Oh well. Life sucks sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murcod Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 Sounds good! Top job Admins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 well done dudes! i dont have to login in each time... actually i havent logged in in about 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 HelenHorbikp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.Sport Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 FYI Since Sunday 13:19 ~ Monday 18:40 there have been 19 new members registered awaiting "approval" 6 appear to be legit. We have not had any dubious posts since. Thanks for your patience & continued support. OzRenaultsport Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 8, January 2007 Report Share Posted 8, January 2007 Hi all, I have made a slight alteration to the setup after a suggestion by e.sport... Guests now have the ability to view and reply to "For Sale" and "Wanted" threads (but cannot post new threads). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_realscott Posted 9, January 2007 Report Share Posted 9, January 2007 So is it set up now so that guest members can only see 'wanted', 'for sale' and 'faq'? I think they should be able to browse everything but not post... Otherwise, people aren't going to know what's actually here... and sometimes it will look (to newbs) like there's nothing on the site, because they're all hidden and invisible. I think we should encourage people to join if we can. Are any of the options I suggested possible with phpbb? That also alleviates the work that the admins have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dish Posted 9, January 2007 Report Share Posted 9, January 2007 Yep, that's how we've now set it up Scott. I see what you mean, but we've had a number of new members already in the last few days... and some of them are real enthusiasts as opposed to spam bots!! Surprised me too, lemme tell ya! hehehe I for one don't think that it would turn people away... a lot of forums are set up this way. The added benefit is that it keeps out Google spiders etc that eat into our bandwidth, so we shouldn't have that issue again, fingers crossed. There are many MODs that phpBB have, and I will be looking into which we can incorporate to make life a little easier. rex-static will be assisting in this too, thankfully, cos I'm still a little green when it comes to all this web-tech stuff... but if anyone has ideas, please tell us. I do appreciate those who have already put up their hands to help, and we'll be investigating all thoughts and suggestions. Keep em coming! There is also an upcoming verion 3 of this php software from what I read in their support pages, but when that will be released is another thing. From the general feedback there though, we are not the only forum to be hit hard by these spammers of late - it's a universal problem at the moment. Cheers, Dish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.Sport Posted 9, January 2007 Report Share Posted 9, January 2007 Memberlist # Username E-mail Location Joined Posts Website 1 Abemmefalem58 10 Jan 2007 0 2 Erme72 10 Jan 2007 0 3 mrDrugsss USA 10 Jan 2007 0 4 Bill-Watson USA 10 Jan 2007 0 5 thespiderman 10 Jan 2007 0 6 redbackracing.com.au 10 Jan 2007 0 7 Daormardesfa7 10 Jan 2007 0 8 aggressing belarus 10 Jan 2007 0 9 Addo5 10 Jan 2007 0 10 kpbaitodl Italy 10 Jan 2007 0 11 Fmovsfilsx USA 10 Jan 2007 0 12 halobaldy UAE 10 Jan 2007 0 13 alsikimarble romania 09 Jan 2007 0 The highlighted two appear to be the only legit out of this lot. Its working though. Less spamming = happier forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClioF1 Posted 10, January 2007 Report Share Posted 10, January 2007 Dish, e.sport, has it been considered to upgrade our forum to a more advanced system like vBulletin? I know it costs money to buy a licence but from what I hear its about $200 as a one-off payment. Security and anti-spamming should improve out of sight. There are also bandwidth management features too. I'm just thinking that after a while this email approval system is going to take up a lot of time for admins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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