Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Hi all, I'm currently in the market for a clio and always start off my research with a forum search, looks like i have found a great one here, lots of reading in the last week or so. I started off keen on a 197 but I'm a bit worried about it deteriorating too quick on me as I won't be able to garage it so now I've started thinking 182/172 just for the bang for buck factor. How do these seem to go for rust? I live on the coast and rust seems to kill my cars before mechanical failure. Would I be mad to spend 10-15k on an R27 and park it in the driveway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidwestern Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Rust isn't the biggest issue here, but I'm sure it depends on how much spray the car gets.You can pretty much get a 197 for the price of a (expensive) 182. What's your plan for the car? If it's a daily, a base 197 would be the way to go, r27 are notoriously firm, and 172/182 are anything but refined or luxurious... Also, welcome! You'll find everything you need on this forum, including the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 197/200's probably haven't been around in this country long enough to give an educated response re rust. It's not been raised before as far as I know. At least the front fender / mudguard is plastic it won't rust. You'd be mad not to buy an R27. Hard ride but OMG the cornering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 What's your plan for the car? It's a daily (but quite low k) driver, just wanted something fun, possibly a track day or two, not looking to set records or do any modding. Still trying to get my head around the different models, from base to cup or r27, it's still mostly the same as far as engine/chassis goes? Just suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidwestern Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 197, the engines are all the same, suspension and chassis changes for the different models. As far as I know it's just 197 and r27, there was no middle ground. I'm no expert on Clio 3s though. There's a bloke called Apple who is. Haha R27 is easily liveable and would make a good daily/fun track car Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 (edited) 197 - hard 200 - harder 197 R27 - hardest Same engine. 197 slightly less grunt, but not much in it. The top of the rev range is where it all happens with the Clio. Remember this when you drive one. Google R27 review. Edited 6, June 2016 by apple3337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt205 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Rust is rarely an issue on Modern cars, most are fully Galvanized during assembly, I would think rust issues would arise from poor repair work. Peugeot 205 was one of the first cars to be fully gal'd during production, I have one that is 26 years old, has lived outside most of it's life and zero rust anywhere. I never lived right on the beach but it's not far down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 197 - hard 200 - harder 197 R27 - hardest Same engine. 197 slightly less grunt, but not much in it. The top of the rev range is where it all happens with the Clio. Remember this when you drive one. I thought you were the expert! 200 - softest, 15% softer than 197 197- soft 197 Cup/R27 - hard, about 30% stiffer than 197 200 Cup - hardest, 15% stiffer than R27 200 also has quicker steering rack Sources: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/renault/renault-clio-renaultsport-200-2009-review/ http://www.evo.co.uk/renault/clio/6210/renaultsport-clio-197200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 (edited) OK I've seen that stuff. The standard 200 we never got. All 200's here are cup. I've owned a 197, R27 and the 200 cup. On my experience for what it's worth... see post #6 for my bum sensor readings! (BTW, I've never claimed to be an expert) Edited 6, June 2016 by apple3337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkie86 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 OK I've seen that stuff. The standard 200 we never got. All 200's here are cup. I've owned a 197, R27 and the 200 cup. On my experience for what it's worth... see post #6 for my bum sensor readings! (BTW, I've never claimed to be an expert) Your personal experience is very valid, just got me thinking about what I'd read back when the RSC3 200 first came out. Let's just blame Riley... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unusual Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 There are 2 great looking R27's for sale on here. Buy one and enjoy. http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/index.php?/topic/26034-syd-2009-clio-rs-f1-team-r27-white/ http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/index.php?/topic/25963-r27-liquid-yellow-akrapovic-recaros-sa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 There are 2 great looking R27's for sale on here. Buy one and enjoy. Don't you worry, they're on the radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt205 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 There's a tidy 197 for sale too, just sayin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 You're a bit late to the dance Matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt205 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Not late, just not pushing too hard.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R182 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Perhaps fashionably late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clixx-io Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 I would put in a strong recommendation to at least look at Matt205s car for sale. He pays a lot of attention to detail and it's hard to go past buying a Renault previously owned by an enthusiast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Matt's on the list too, and probably the smarter choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishhyyyy Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Or there is this mint monaco blue 172 as well, plus it can come with extra goodies if you like http://www.ozrenaultsport.com/index.php?/topic/25904-eoi-for-the-blue-turd/#entry543865 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Well, that escalated quickly.... Looks like one less R27 in South Oz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Mate, if you drive like you buy cars you won't have your license long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 (edited) I'm slightly impulsive, twas an interesting phone call with the wife PS any tips re. interstate purchases? Edited 6, June 2016 by Schoey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Well I'd buy it subject to inspection. Just in case. Are you picking it up? CEVA are good for transport if not. Congrats anyway! You'll love it! Welcome to the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Well I'd buy it subject to inspection. Just in case. Leap of faith It's a forum member who's been around for a while so I'm happy he's not selling a lemon (although the colour could be a bad sign ) I'm picking up, flight booked. How do I go about transfer of rego, insurance all that? I've started reading up, thanks google but thought there might be some experience here to put me on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s9810588 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 When buying interstate, you buy the car with registration but without RWC. Drive the car home, get RWC then transfer the registration and return the old number plates. Insurance should be sorted out before you receive the car key. You wouldn't want to crash into a $800,000 Lamborghini on the way back and not having insurance, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s9810588 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Nice choice of R27 by the way. I was pretty close of getting one a while ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple3337 Posted 6, June 2016 Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 (edited) RE insurance. Any old cover note will do until you get it home. If you are selling an old car for this, transfer that policy to this car. It should be WAY cheaper that way. Has anyone ever joined the forum and bought a car on the same day? Edited 6, June 2016 by apple3337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schoey Posted 6, June 2016 Author Report Share Posted 6, June 2016 Thanks for the advice guys. PS didn't join today, just first post, I'm not that bad hehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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